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Re: Challenge: Demonstrate that Evil "Exists"

October 3rd, 2012, 1:08 pm

wikipedia, of course, has some etymology and history of 'Evil' - decide the credibility of the page for yourself. Some is useful, some less so. However, I did like the bit from 'Is evil a useful term?' amusing. I think Jessica Ahlquist, for example, may recognise these behaviours in her Christian co...

Re: Lessing and Carlin on Education

August 23rd, 2012, 3:54 pm

Hi Scott, I like this post, and the Lessing quote. Regarding mainstream education and thinking / developing as an individual more than as a clone [and points on the continuum between these poles, which is where you'll probably find nearly everyone]: As with many things, I think it depends upon conti...

Re: What's a good introduction to Quantum Physics?

March 5th, 2012, 7:10 pm

Steve3007 wrote:bluegreenearth:

Was that quote you posted taken from a review of this "...rabbit hole" movie? Or taken from the movie itself? I'm confused.


it is a review on the website as linked at the bottom

Tim

Re: What's a good introduction to Quantum Physics?

March 5th, 2012, 6:03 pm

dparrott wrote:There's a movie called "What the Bleep and Down The Rabbit Hole." It explains it simple enough for a kid to get it.



There is this scathing blast on the web (and, having seen the dvds, i can't help but agree, though in a 'know your enemy' kind of way, worth a view):

M.D.
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To all tree hugger morons that believe that their thoughts affect in any way the physical matter outside themselves: If you think enough and meditate a lot about it, maybe you could get your head out of your as*ses. Read a real quantum physics book for a change. You say that the message was not discussed in the reviews? sure, all this new-age, hippie crackpot BS stands for itself, because the "facts" are too strong to be refuted, because physical matter tends to change its chemical properties according to stupid thoughts made by ignorant, egocentric people who think that the universe revolves around themselves enough to change its nature by their power of thought. And the water crystalizes itself differently if I bless it or curse it, according to that japanese "scientific" (Masaru Emoto.) Too bad he doesn't let anyone analyze or reproduce his "experiments" and he did not utilize double blind methodology (do some research) Funnily enough no real scientists are featured in this film, with the exception of David Albert, (and a couple more) who worked with Roger Penrose and in a Popular Science article he stated about this movie that he is "outraged at the final product." The article states that Albert granted the filmmakers a near-four hour interview about quantum mechanics being unrelated to consciousness or spirituality. His interview was then edited and incorporated into the film in a way that misrepresented his views. What gets me mad about this kind of pseudo-scientific shi*t is that it misleads genuinely curious people about science, mixing truths and facts with new age BS so JZ Knight (oh, pardon me, Ramtha, 35,000 year-old warrior spirit from the lost continent of Lemuria, as she states) can sell more spiritual crystals to gullible people and swim in big stashes of money. Spiritual growth, nothing materialistic here. Unlike JZ Knight and her moronic, gullible, ignorant and dishonest colaborators, I'm not making this up. Check Wikipedia article about this movie and look for more sources, and you will understand that this movie should be classified "Fantasy" or "Sci-fi" instead of "documentary" If you're curious about quantum physics, there's lot of real sources in the internet, and plenty of them are simple to read and comprehend, and much more fascinating than this mind dump that gullible idiots call "documentary".


http://www.metacritic.com/movie/what-th ... abbit-hole

Re: Would a collective conscinece deindividualize its compon

February 16th, 2012, 9:37 am

My brief thoughts on this: 1] I think that Rousseau's contract theory is an example of philosophising about the purported benefits of a 'shared consciousness', though he might have put it otherwise. His view that our better nature is that which is expressed through the reasoning capacity in public m...

Re: Is there a name for this philosophy of mind position?

February 3rd, 2012, 3:11 pm

(quote not shown) Not quite what you're after, I think, but interesting reading nonetheless: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicalism , including the sub-section http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomalous_monism . Also interesting reading: A Physicalist Manifesto: Thoroughly Modern Materialism (Cambridg...

Re: Evolution, human nature, and the scientific method

January 14th, 2012, 7:44 pm

(quote not shown) To go from ID to 'biblical theology' appears to be a rather large leap to me. The way ID argues about design already compromises the strict / literal theology of the bible. It may be bad science to 'take ID off the table': it would guarantee evolutionists would dismiss the hypothes...
bluegreenearth

Re: What's your favorite movie?

January 11th, 2012, 4:19 pm

not a definite list, by any means, but: 2001, Akira, Apocalypse Now, Battle for Algiers, Blade Runner, Boogie Nights, Brazil, Clerks, Dances with Wolves, Dark Star, Das Boot, Delicatessen, Deliverance, Diva, Do the Right Thing, Drugstore Cowboy, Edge of Darkness, Fahrenheit 451, The Field, Hardware,...

Re: Abortion MUST be legal at any stage

January 8th, 2012, 2:52 pm

I am taking the possibility of having sufficient consciouness to feel pain to be one of a number of relevant factors. On your comparison's, 'not all men are Aristotle'.

Tim

Re: Abortion MUST be legal at any stage

January 7th, 2012, 4:25 pm

(quote not shown) H. Hamlin, "Life or Death by EEG," Journal of the American Medical Association (Oct 12,1964); p.120 I'd say the first glimmer of a point to debating the issues is from here, at 6 weeks. Even so, what activity is there really, this early? I a sense of 'being' or perception...

Re: Discuss "The Fallacy of Fine-Tuning" by Victor J. Stenge

January 7th, 2012, 3:46 pm

(quote not shown) OK, say it did 'have to happen at least once in the universe'. With the amazing amount of time and space, and the possibility that some things we think are fixed may be special cases (speed of light, etc), then, again, if many phases exist, and in one set of phases that 'have to ha...

Re: Discuss "The Fallacy of Fine-Tuning" by Victor J. Stenge

January 7th, 2012, 9:55 am

I don't believe the river analogy actually _requires_ multi-universes, it requires, rather, an ability to speculate and ask 'what if?' questions. These _may_ unearth ideas, hopefully some testable, that show us otherwise hidden structures and configurations. The 'true explanation' regarding geology ...

Re: Evolution, human nature, and the scientific method

January 6th, 2012, 4:10 pm

Judging fitness merely by the number of babies seems an uncertain way to argue or imply that 'evolution believers' are inferior to 'ID believers'. William Catton makes the point pretty clearly in his book Overshoot ( http://greatchange.org/footnotes-overshoot-graphs.html ), as did the Club of Rome r...

Re: Discuss "The Fallacy of Fine-Tuning" by Victor J. Stenge

January 6th, 2012, 3:26 pm

'Fine tuning' implies a tuner and a tune. Many of those who dispute 'fine-tuning' are not disputing the numbers, or the narrow bands of possible 'tunings' that might allow us to be in existence, or the interesting co-incidences that allow our existence. Rather, they dispute the interpretation of the...
bluegreenearth

Re: World Peace

January 6th, 2012, 2:34 pm

Hi Bermudj, I think this insight into 'heaven' may illustrate your point, if the link is allowable

http://movieclips.com/NVE5-bill-and-ted ... lk-to-god/

:-)
Tim
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