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lifegazer

Re: The Death Of Darwin

December 13th, 2009, 7:02 am

nada wrote:I have always been uneasy with Darwin's theory. Not with the idea of evolution (change to biological systems over time) but with his hinge-pin of evolution being driven by random mutations and survival of the fittest. Such a basic biological drive at the core of our be-ing would produce a society in total and endless (and merciless) competition.

The theory goes that most species of complex organisms have evolved the trait of altruism to some degree, because it has been beneficial for them to have done so. Parental behaviour is the obvious example - if individuals were absolutely selfish, few offspring would survive. But nature exhibits numerous examples of cooperative behaviour.

The fact is that natural selection should have favoured altruistic tendencies, so I have to disagree with you when you say that NS should have yielded a completely selfish society.

The problem I have with the theory of evolution, is that those trying to explain particular adaptations always do so within the context of their practicalities. Hence, when asked how 'altruism' evolved, the answer is given in terms of its usefulness to the species. But that doesn't answer the question that was asked - it answers a different question: why would altruism have evolved? (As opposed to how).

Darwin's theory was really just a slap in the face for biblical literalists, who actually believe that everything was created in a week. As an idealist, I have no problems with the general outline of the theory. But for me, it is the essence of change that is the issue. And science simply does not answer that question.
lifegazer

Re: The Death Of Darwin

December 13th, 2009, 8:10 pm

nada wrote:Now what would your thoughts be on the part of my post where I say that the independent evolution and development of cell organs (which Darwin could not have known about) completely deletes any idea of spontaneous generation (which I must assume Darwin held as an accepted fact).

Each 'component' of the body forms part of a complex mechanism. Moreover, each component of the body is reliant upon the rest of the bodily mechanism.

It seems to me that any new adaptation has to be integrated with the rest of the organism. For example, the evolution of light receptor cells is worthless unless a recognition and response system also evolves.

For me, I don't see how small worthless steps can work. Natural selection doesn't favour worthless adaptations, meaning that new adaptations have to be instantly worthwhile to be selected for in future generations.
So, of what use is a heart without blood? What use is blood without blood vessels? None. Meaning that the whole system has to evolve at once, or not at all. And they're trying to tell us that such complex mechanisms can be produced by 'accident'?

I don't buy into it at all. That is, I do buy into evolution in that I think it happens, but I don't believe it ALL happens via small incremental accidents that are all useful in their own right.

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