whitetrshsoldier wrote:How do you call it freedom when:
1) God knows all.
2) God knows some of us will 'fall'.
3) God created us knowing we would be cast into eternal damnation.
Sorry, to butt in here, but what do you call freedom?
I call freedom being in control of my own actions; I don't think this means the universe cannot be deterministic. I mean, yes, I am composed of physical atoms which act in a predictable way, so what I do is just the outcome of that matter behaving is it would behave; but I am that matter, so I'm still in control of what I do.
The next question is, what do you call punishment?
I call punishment the rightful or logical outcome of a person's actions as imposed by an external authority. Hence, it is right to punish a murderer by taking away their freedoms for a long period of time; such destructive behavior much be reflected on that person's life. That is to say, you deserve punishment because of what is a natural consequence of your actions, nothing more.
On the other hand, I think Hell is just a metaphor for what the universe would become if evil 'won out;' not an actual realm where bad souls go, so I can't really defend the position completely.