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Bonobo57

May 9th, 2010, 8:33 am

There seems to be a consensus among those who eat meat that they are comfortable with the practice as long as the animals are treated humanely and experience a life free of excessive suffering, which is a position that I can empathise with because it's exactly the attitude that I used to have about ...
Bonobo57

eggs

April 24th, 2010, 1:38 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ--faib7to[/youtube] I dare you to watch this video! And if you're having thoughts about human exceptionalism after seeing this, then you should remember that what really distinguishes us from other animals is our capacity for morality and compassion. Go vega...

February 14th, 2010, 10:20 am

I take it you didn't read the link, because the evidence for animal sentience is overwhelming. (quote not shown) Children are humans, but not all humans have self-cognizant minds. Young infants don't have developed higher cognitive functions, and mentally disabled people may not have the ability to ...

February 14th, 2010, 9:34 am

(quote not shown). So the reason it's wrong to torture children is because they are capable of suffering? (quote not shown) I'm happy to see you say this (quote not shown) Does this include children or not? If it does, then it must also include by extension any animal that has those mental character...

February 13th, 2010, 10:10 am

(quote not shown) Meleagar, why is it wrong to torture children? It would be nice if you had the intellectual honesty to include the interests of the person being tortured in your answer. The next question is, if you think it's wrong to torture children, is it wrong to torture a semi-human ancestor,...
Bonobo57

February 5th, 2010, 11:23 am

I wouldn't say that you need to know a great deal about nutrition in order to become a vegetarian, in fact you're likely to have a much more nutritious and healthy diet through necessity. You don't even need to be able to cook as most retailers will stock frozen meals, quorn and tofu, soups, pasta d...
Bonobo57

February 1st, 2010, 2:55 pm

(quote not shown) I'm saying that you can't appeal to nature to tell you what is right and wrong. There are sociobiological theories of rape, but if these turned out to be true that wouldn't mean that we should obediently follow our 'nature' in spite of what our best reason was telling us. Sexually ...
Bonobo57

February 1st, 2010, 1:49 pm

(quote not shown). When PETA can convince gorillas to stop raping adolescent females, lions to stop killing their own offspring and digger wasps from eating their hosts alive, then I'll consider whether or not it's okay to do those things. Just because something happens in nature Keith, that doesn't...
Bonobo57

January 30th, 2010, 2:25 pm

I think everyone who knows about factory farming but who continues to eat meat is hypocritical if they agree that animal abuse is wrong. The vitriolic language that I use is better than talking in euphemisms, because these are sentient animals that we are talking about who care about suffering in th...
Bonobo57

January 30th, 2010, 1:54 pm

(quote not shown) Those organic animals that you consume were almost certainly killed in slaughterhouses, so many of them would have been skinned alive or submerged in scalding tanks while still conscious. The male chicks from your organic farm would have been gassed, crushed or had their heads pull...
Bonobo57

January 30th, 2010, 1:33 pm

Well you did say this: (quote not shown) Those organic animals that you consume were almost certainly killed in slaughterhouses, so many of them would have been skinned alive or submerged in scalding tanks while still conscious. The male chicks from your organic farm would have been gassed, crushed ...
Bonobo57

January 30th, 2010, 12:22 pm

You're not facing reality Izzy. Billions of animals are routinely abused in the most horrifying ways in factory farms and slaughterhouses, animals who are just as sentient as human children. When I read comments like this: (quote not shown) Followed by a hypocritical attack on veganism, it makes me ...

January 30th, 2010, 11:33 am

Excellent post Homicidal Pacifist, I couldn't agree more. You might find this programme by Victor Schonfeld interesting. At the end he considers the Holocaust analogy, and I've copied the transcript for you. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p005k2zy "These are atrocities on a massive scale, in f...
Bonobo57

January 30th, 2010, 5:57 am

I don`t have any time for a person who would be intentionally cruel to any animal.


Such hypocrisy. Why do you eat animals who have been tortured then?

January 23rd, 2010, 7:56 am

You've finally said something that I agree with! I read Ayan Hirsi Ali's biography last year, and in it she describes how she was circumcised when she was a child and how excruciating it was. Misogyny in the Islamic world is one of the great evils that needs to be confronted this century, and I sinc...
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