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April 22nd, 2012, 2:39 am
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July 15th, 2012, 5:18 pm
Windy34 wrote:No guarantee that if you cast your bread on the waters that it will come back to you. There is some people I tried to be nice to, and I got crap back in return. Getting crap back from people seems to happen more often than not. How can a person be happy if they have to sacrifice themselves? Because by sacrificing yourself you are open to crap. Also if you are trying to maximize well being for yourself aren't you contradicting yourself? You say that ethics is not suppose to be self-centered, but if you are focused on doing ethics for well-being you are looking for what you can get back from being ethical.
July 22nd, 2012, 4:27 am
.... If people act indifferent or mean I would feel crappy.
-- Updated Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:02 pm to add the following --
You mention ... I never advocated sacrificing oneself, and I don't believe in it. I did say that Ethics teaches us to promote the well-being of others as the smartest way to be "selfish" (way to enhance one's own degree of morality and thereby get the most value out of life.) Yes, there is something in it for us if we promote the happiness of others, or if we reduce the misery of others."
As for the first statement there is no guarantee that if you promote the happiness of others there is something in it for us. Sometimes yes, but based on my experience most of the times the answer is no.
As for the second statement doing and having do not always result from being. Some things happen outside of being.
And for the last statement that statement doesn't make sense because if you want to be an ethical person you would have to sacrifice yourself, and sometimes you would have to do something you don't feel or want to do to be an ethical person. You say you don't believe in sacrificing yourself, but then you contradict yourself by saying you want to promote the happiness of other people, and you want something for it.
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