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Re: Mind-Independent Objects

Today, 2:36 am

Seeds Wrote (quote not shown) And Quotidian agreed. There are a whole lot of aternative interpretations of mind independent objects being given here. Kant's noumena, universal intelligence and quantum entanglement, and scientific explanations(atoms, molecules etc..) I believe that to experience a mi...
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Re: Mind-Independent Objects

June 17th, 2013, 8:29 am

Quotidian said: (quote not shown) I agree that Kant wanted to explain (real) empirical experience through examining the make up of our mind. But what has moved on since then is the interactive way we learn about the world, and how we judge the presence of objects, which is interactive and a process ...
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Re: Mind-Independent Objects

June 17th, 2013, 8:05 am

Dawson said: (quote not shown) OK, but I think we need to tighten up here. I think the basic invariance between sensory channels is the true test of mind independence. I think we need to rule out what our dog would do if we fed it the onion, or what the rest of mankind would say, or how the object w...
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Re: Mind-Independent Objects

June 17th, 2013, 3:37 am

Dawson wrote: (quote not shown) I think that Dawson is right. The experiences that Dawson points to, e.g. of an onion, when we examine them closely, 'philosophically', contain an invariance of the taste, smell and feel of a typical onion. Something which looked like an onion but tasted differently e...
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Re: Mind-Independent Objects

June 15th, 2013, 9:58 am

Yes, I was concerned about that also, and I appreciate your position. But I think a ratio needs to be measured, and this needs separately agreed units, which, the argument goes, needs mind independent objects like rulers, lasers, etc... I find it hard to imagine a ratio which has not got a number, w...
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Re: Mind-Independent Objects

June 15th, 2013, 7:45 am

I think there is a basic mistake in talking about invariant distances from measurements as an indication of mind independent objects. In fact, to measure requires an agreed, objective unit of measurement, otherwise the distance is elastic and unreliable. But the unit of measurement relies on a stand...
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Re: How does space expand

April 26th, 2013, 7:46 am

To Xris: I was referring to what we know as a vacuum, sorry been busy so only now seeing your reply to my post on 23rd. A 'void' means something else, and is abstract, I think it doesn't exist. Even if we removed all the molecules form a vacuum chamber, quantum events would still be happening consta...
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Re: How does space expand

April 23rd, 2013, 12:23 pm

Well, its not nothing as we know, if theory and observations based on these are correct. Scientists see it a wriggling mass of quantum events which are constantly coming in and out of existence.
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Re: How does space expand

April 19th, 2013, 3:57 am

Good points by Mazer Rackhem re vacuum etc.. I wonder if space appears to be expanding because matter is shrinking? That is, space expanding == matter shrinking. We could not measure the shrinking, as the rulers would be shrinking also. But as an abstract idea it does make some sense. The visible li...

Re: A beginner's guide to understand Heidegger's idea of bei

March 3rd, 2012, 2:15 pm

I think that the genocide of the death camps, Heidegger came to see, was an objectifying of people as material to be processed, as other parts of the world have come to be seen as commodities for our manipulation. This he saw as a consequence of the mistaken analysis of the world as composed of bein...

Re: Have you ever expoereinced an altered state of conscious

February 21st, 2012, 11:44 pm

I once was sleeping, and in my dream(?) wondered if I had left the room light on. So I woke up (deliberately) to see if I had. I hadn't.
I think they call this a lucid dream, where you can control your thoughts even when asleep. Probably an altered state of consciousness. Anyone else have similar?
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Re: Relativity of mind

February 21st, 2012, 11:33 pm

I like that,wanabe "Everything in moderation, even moderation." Says a lot.
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Re: Relativity of mind

February 21st, 2012, 9:39 pm

Yes I agree mostly. Aristotle had the same idea, the Doctrine of the mean.
But are some extremes not good? We don't just climb half a mountain, we want to go all the way. We don't just want a phone that works, but a phone that Steve Jobs wanted to be "insanely great"?

Just a thought.
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Re: Is everything we do self serving?

February 21st, 2012, 9:18 pm

I think you are right, Simpleliving, and so is Socraspinn. We do the right thing because it is the right thing. But that means we are motivated by the right thing to do, doing well: as you say what you can give motivates you. But that is different from the receiver's benefit, which is helped by the ...
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Re: Is everything we do self serving?

February 5th, 2012, 2:53 pm

I agree, Russellbar, education is the key, together with positive, other-regarding influence as parents or friends or whatever. But the crux is that the education, environmental influences, parenting, have to be positive, directed, and other regarding, otherwise we could not become autonomous, ratio...
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