February 19th, 2012, 9:03 pm
What make you think that James S Saint has any better understanding of what I said that you do?
-- Updated February 19th, 2012, 8:26 pm to add the following --
Hi Wayne.
Why does there have to be a first cause?
Is it not also possible to have an eternal universe
Perhaps the idea of first cause is a hangover from our Judeo/Chrisian cultural past.
Regards, John.
Earth calling Wayne, Wayne are you out there?
Sorry Wayne, I saw nothing in your reply that even remotely answered my questions.
All I saw was some farfetched religious? sermon, saying absolutely nothing.
Regards, John.
Hi Wayne.
Why does there have to be a first cause?
From my post;
Because, Prior the Creation of the Reality of First Cause there was only Darkness upon the Deep, the Reality of First Cause being the First Thing to come to Light; The Reality of First Cause issuing forth as the First Singularity to have Relative, Numerical, value, being the first, the beginning of a series, a Continuum, such as Space-Time, the Beginning of a Process such as the Evolutionary Process.
John wrote;
Is it not also possible to have an eternal universe
Wayne wrote;
Quantity, Mass is not Everlasting, Mass being the result of a Quantity of Individual Infinitely Finite Indivisible Singularities clumping together, resulting in a plurality, Two or more Singularities acting as the Whole of a Single Reality, is ever-changing.
A Plurality, a quantity, a Mass, of Individual Infinitely Finite Indivisible Singularities acting as the Whole of a Single Reality being divisible, not being everlasting, not being a True Singularity.
the Reality of First Cause being an Alchemical Transfiguration; The Reality of First Cause being born of an Affect, a State or Condition; the Origin, the Source of the Reality of First Cause being the Steady State of Singularity.
The Origin, the Source of the Reality of Everything had no Beginning, The Steady State of Singularity being Everlasting, Eternal, the Steady State of Singularity not being subject to the Relativity of Time and Space, Time and Space;
New;
I might add that the Universe, the Reality of Everything as we know it to had a beginning, the Origin, the source of the Reality of Everything being the Steady State of Singularity-----see above being Everlasting, Eternal, the Steady State of Singularity not being subject to the Relativity of Time and Space, Time and Space;
John wrote;
Perhaps the idea of first cause is a hangover from our Judeo/Chrisian cultural past.
Regards, John.
From my post.
The belief that the Universe, the Reality of Everything is made up of a Single Thing is Ancient, eons older that Judaism, Christianity, Islam.
My post;
Hi Wayne.
Why does there have to be a first cause?
Is it not also possible to have an eternal universe
Perhaps the idea of first cause is a hangover from our Judeo/Chrisian cultural past.
Regards, John.
Because, Prior the Creation of the Reality of First Cause there was only Darkness upon the Deep, the Reality of First Cause being the First Thing to come to Light; The Reality of First Cause issuing forth as the First Singularity to have Relative, Numerical, value, being the first, the beginning of a series, a Continuum, such as Space-Time, the Beginning of a Process such as the Evolutionary Process.
NoThing existed prior to the Creation of the Reality of First Cause, Time and Space not being Relative, NoThing was readily apparent, NoThing was measurable as to location and momentum in Time an d Space, Space-Time, the Space-Time Continuum, the Four-Dimensional Continuum, the Three Dimensional World of Reality, the Universe, the Reality of Everything, the Material, the Physical World of Reality, as we know it to be did not exist, Nothing had come to Light; The Reality of First Cause getting the Ball Rolling.
Because the Reality of First Cause, although itself not being of any part of ordinary process, a series of Events, continuum, being without cause, issued forth as a Singularity having a dual quality, having relative, numerical, value, the Reality of First Cause being an Alchemical Transfiguration; The Reality of First Cause being born of an Affect, a State or Condition; the Origin, the Source of the Reality of First Cause being the Steady State of Singularity.
The Origin, the Source of the Reality of Everything had no Beginning, The Steady State of Singularity being Everlasting, Eternal, the Steady State of Singularity not being subject to the Relativity of Time and Space, Time and Space; NoThing becoming Relative until the Creation, the Random Generation, the Alchemical Transfiguration of a Singularity having no relative, numerical, value into the Reality of First Cause, the Reality of First Cause having a dual quality being the First Singularity to have relative, numerical, value.
The belief that the Universe, the Reality of Everything is made up of a Single Thing
is Ancient, eons older that Judaism, Christianity, Islam.
The Reality of Everything has an Origin; the Source of the Reality of Everything being Eternal, Everlasting, not being subject to the relativity of Time and Space, existed prior to the Creation of the Reality of First Cause, the Beginning of the Heaven and the Earth, the Universe of Reality as we know it to be.
Quantity, Mass is not Everlasting, Mass being the result of a Quantity of Individual Infinitely Finite Indivisible Singularities clumping together, resulting in a plurality, Two or more Singularities acting as the Whole of a Single Reality, is ever-changing.
A Plurality, a quantity, a Mass, of Individual Infinitely Finite Indivisible Singularities acting as the Whole of a Single Reality being divisible, not being everlasting, not being a True Singularity.
A True Singularity must be Eternal, Everlasting in order to exist, must exist alone in the Emptiness of Time and Space, must have no relative, numerical value, must not be capable of having influence or being influenced, must not be subject to the Relativity of Time and Space, must not exist as part of a Series, Continuum, Process, a Quantity, a Mass, as the Beginning or the End, the First of the Last, Must exist alone in the Everlasting, Eternal Emptiness of Time and Space, Must exist without Cause.
The Reality of First Cause prior to its Alchemical Transfiguration was One of an untold number of Individual Infinitely Finite Indivisible Singularities, True, Singularities that made up the Steady State of Singularity in which the Reality of Everything existed with NoThing having Relative, Numerical value, carrying any weight, having substance, there being no known Quantity, Mass, NoThing being readily apparent, NoThing being measurable as to location and or momentum in either Time or Space, The Relativity of Time and Space, Space-Time being the result of the Alchemical Transfiguration of the Reality of First Cause.
The Reality of Everything prior to the Moment of the Creation, the Random Generation, the Alchemical Transfiguration of One of an untold number of True Singularities, having no relative, numerical, value-->O that made up the Steady State of Singularity, the Mutation of a True Singularity resulting in a Singularity having Relative, numerical Value, the Reality of First Cause being the Beginning of a process, a Continuum, Space-Time the Evolutionary Process, The Reality of First Cause having a Dual Quality, being the First in a Series, the beginning of a Continuum, the Process, know as Cause and Effect.
Zero, O, the Nothingness, the untold number of True Singularizes that made up the Reality of Everything Prior to its Alchemical Transfiguration, before it became a Singularity having the Relative, Numerical Value of One, the Reality of First Cause, the First, the beginning, the Starting Point of the Reality of EveryThing; The Reality of First Cause starting the ball rolling.
A True Singularity having a numerical value of O; the Reality of First Cause being a Singularity having a numerical Value of 1, The Reality of Everything having a numerical value of (n).
The Eternal Reality of Everything having the Relative, Numerical, Value of; O/1(n)