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May 2nd, 2013, 7:59 pm
(quote not shown) Good point. And that gives a reason why to attempt to create AI consciousness even if, as some believe, it will never happen. We can already create machines that will react to colors and of course sounds, and with every expansion of machine interaction with what biological entities...
April 29th, 2013, 10:22 pm
(quote not shown) I have no argument with that statement and admit to finding the discussion on consciousness interesting. But is the original question that difficult to focus on without turning it into a focus on an all encompassing theory of consciousness which admittedly is a very interesting and...
April 29th, 2013, 7:30 pm
This post has become a very informative and interesting as to perspectives on the nature of consciousness. It also has pointed out a problem with philosophical thinking. And begs the question does philosophy so over-complicate questions and/or issues so as to make them unanswerable? For example say ...
April 28th, 2013, 7:16 pm
(quote not shown) There is nothing to refute. Sure AI can produce programs that mislead and the appearance of consciousness which does not exist. It is hoped that humans are intelligent enough to distinguish between the illusion of a functional consciousness and its actual presence. If for a moment ...
April 26th, 2013, 7:47 pm
Some points of consideration: 1. Consciousness is a relative concept - no absolute definition exists and it is a process that defies an absolute definition. 2. Artificial intelligence is not artificial - It is a manifestation created by human intelligence. And the initial consciousness of the machin...
April 25th, 2013, 4:46 pm
We can, and they have, written books on consciousness. But I still submit my simplified view: (quote not shown) If we could show an 'apparently conscious' machine that you could have an intelligent conversation with, that say could not only play chess with you but could comment on your play and coul...
April 25th, 2013, 4:47 am
I have not read all the recent postings on this subject but apparently much has been said that is worth review and I will do so soon. But in the meantime this comes to mind - what is mind? Is mind and consciousness a functional part of our biology which has no separate existence from our biological ...
April 23rd, 2013, 5:58 pm
This is all quite interesting but if we are to answer the initial question "Can a man-made computer become conscious?' we, in my opinion, have to reduce the issue to this: Can a man-made computer think for 'itself'? Computers in a limited programmed way are thinking - as it reflects off of thei...
April 23rd, 2013, 12:32 am
Interesting debate. But for the sake of focus please allow me to inject some science of what real time scientists are doing.Philosophy apparently does not deter the scientist. As I stated earlier the first 'consciousness' of artificial intelligence might be achieved by cloning natural consciousness ...
April 22nd, 2013, 4:41 pm
(quote not shown) Your opinion has some merit but as you might expect I disagree. When it comes to sensation computers can already duplicate the human senses {no, I'm not saying that they are an exact duplicate}; same holds {to an extent} for volition {machines are already programmed to make choices...
April 21st, 2013, 5:45 pm
(quote not shown) Again we are back to the same problem - What is consciousness? Since one 'could' consider almost anything that interacts with the environment as 'in some ways' being conscious, the question is still relevant to definitions. As I said previously 'if' the machine consciousness could ...
April 21st, 2013, 1:57 pm
Dionysus12, some of your rhetorical criticisms and arguments are somewhat interesting but we have heard most of this before; the naysayers on computer consciousness like atheists on religion have an endless and unlimited series of arguments to show that what they believe should not exist does not ex...
April 21st, 2013, 1:37 pm
In order for us and nature to function in this world it must follow a linear time progression. But the physical universe may not be quite so linear; In fact it probably is not linear; the universe is probably curved and time is relative. So as we appear to travel via a linear time line and in the mi...
April 20th, 2013, 4:01 pm
Here is some information that reflects upon our current debate: (quote not shown) And this: (quote not shown) So you see fellow philosophers the debate is still open even among scientists. If I find it I Will show links I've posted in the past about one group of computer scientists currently working...
April 19th, 2013, 11:56 pm
(quote not shown) BUT it would have to 'interact' in a manner that shows it is conscious of more than just itself. Computers already do this when used in lets say military defense systems programmed to automatically react to external threats. That would not though indicate the machine has any sense ...