Changes in society correlated with the rise of women's rights

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Belinda, I'm wondering about the point of importing extra workers if they are soon to be superseded by automation?
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Greta wrote: February 24th, 2018, 5:43 pm Belinda, I'm wondering about the point of importing extra workers if they are soon to be superseded by automation?
I sympathise with Captain Swing wtih respect to some automation!

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Belindi wrote: February 25th, 2018, 5:30 am
Greta wrote: February 24th, 2018, 5:43 pm Belinda, I'm wondering about the point of importing extra workers if they are soon to be superseded by automation?
I sympathise with Captain Swing with respect to some automation!

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Thanks for the history, Belinda. Terry Pratchett's Reaper Man just gained another dimension for me.

This makes clear today's situation is simply a continuation of what happened at that time, even playing identical political games.

The latter is the main issue with human society that needs solving - how to, not only expose such games to the point of ineffectiveness, but to create intellectual resilience in the populace so that new rhetorical "loopholes" in lieu of the old ones are not similarly exploited by those with influence, ie. moguls. I'm not convinced that these expose will happen, though - not for everyone. The kind of societal split envisaged by Orwell and Huxley seems more realistic. On the plus side, at least they usually left the hoi polloi alone :)
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Greta wrote: February 25th, 2018, 7:05 pm
Belindi wrote: February 25th, 2018, 5:30 am

I sympathise with Captain Swing with respect to some automation!

https://dearkitty1.wordpress.com/2015/1 ... y-britain/
Thanks for the history, Belinda. Terry Pratchett's Reaper Man just gained another dimension for me.

This makes clear today's situation is simply a continuation of what happened at that time, even playing identical political games.

The latter is the main issue with human society that needs solving - how to, not only expose such games to the point of ineffectiveness, but to create intellectual resilience in the populace so that new rhetorical "loopholes" in lieu of the old ones are not similarly exploited by those with influence, ie. moguls. I'm not convinced that these expose will happen, though - not for everyone. The kind of societal split envisaged by Orwell and Huxley seems more realistic. On the plus side, at least they usually left the hoi polloi alone :)
The political games seem to me too to be the same old games. There's an added dimension ; the power of the contemporary media . Ownership of media by a rich Tory (Murdoch) was what caused many people to vote for Britain to leave the European Union. The Sun, The Mail, and the Telegraph are all owned by Rupert Murdoch.

This nation needs an awakening to the ethic that powerful people owe it to the national wellbeing to serve the nation. Instead we have business
competition , even between universities which once shared the same ideals .
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Belindi wrote: February 27th, 2018, 6:43 am
Greta wrote: February 25th, 2018, 7:05 pm
Thanks for the history, Belinda. Terry Pratchett's Reaper Man just gained another dimension for me.

This makes clear today's situation is simply a continuation of what happened at that time, even playing identical political games.

The latter is the main issue with human society that needs solving - how to, not only expose such games to the point of ineffectiveness, but to create intellectual resilience in the populace so that new rhetorical "loopholes" in lieu of the old ones are not similarly exploited by those with influence, ie. moguls. I'm not convinced that these expose will happen, though - not for everyone. The kind of societal split envisaged by Orwell and Huxley seems more realistic. On the plus side, at least they usually left the hoi polloi alone :)
The political games seem to me too to be the same old games. There's an added dimension ; the power of the contemporary media . Ownership of media by a rich Tory (Murdoch) was what caused many people to vote for Britain to leave the European Union. The Sun, The Mail, and the Telegraph are all owned by Rupert Murdoch.

This nation needs an awakening to the ethic that powerful people owe it to the national wellbeing to serve the nation. Instead we have business
competition , even between universities which once shared the same ideals .
Murdoch controls more than half of Australia's newspapers too. His Fox propaganda service has incredible influence that is deeply, deeply undeserved. Murdoch saw an opportunity back in the 50s, when journalistic ethics was extremely important. Obvious falsehoods and clear bias, now standard in the Murdoch media, at the time would have undermined a journalist's reputation, perhaps ending careers.

Murdoch boasted in the 50s that he could control election results and boasted that he never lost. This is now a boast he would dare not make today, even though it is even more true. Gradually he chipped away at journalistic integrity, always seeking opportunities to lower the bar. Now the bar is so low, with so many biased publications under different names under the Fox umbrella pretending to be multiple agreeing parties rather than just one voice shouted through different "megaphones".

As a result of Murdoch and his supporters, the west's Overton window is leaning self-destructively to the right, destabilising societies with unsustainable inequality.
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Belindi wrote: February 27th, 2018, 6:43 am This nation needs an awakening to the ethic that powerful people owe it to the national wellbeing to serve the nation. Instead we have business
competition , even between universities which once shared the same ideals .
An interesting article that appears in the LA TImes is summarized below...
Michael Hiltzik wrote:What's really at stake in the corporatization of academia is the traditional role the university as a repository of culture and training ground for open inquiry. "The obvious risk," says Michael Meranze, a professor of history at UCLA who shares a blog on academic issues with Newfield, "is that academic research gets done to advance the interests of outside corporations, rather than guided by the logic of the university's mission."
Also.. from the 'Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics' an event featuring 200 women in science expressing their views.
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