What would people say if God came down from the heavens?

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Re: What would people say if God came down from the heavens?

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Felix wrote:Well, we at least know what The Donald would say, "Damn undocumented dieties, build a big wall so no more can get in!!"
Universe/God is the wall and all else. The wall that acts as a buffer-zone between our observed physical/energy/time/frequency/sine-wave ^v^v\/\/\ and the macro-infinite non-occupied space, is;

1} spirit-3, metaphysical-3, ultra-micro gravity ( ) and,

2} spirit-4, metaphysical-4, dark energy )(.

We ( * * ) cannot get out of our finite, occupied space Universe/God aka Uni-V-erse.

(^v )(v^)

(\/\/\ )(/\/\/)

Outside.......( *In* )....Outside

Outside....( Universe/God )......Outside

Outside.....Uni-V-erse/God....Outside

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By Rybo6 alias Os-Jbug

From the synergetic concentric heirarchy,
To the action of the toroidal process,
So begins our fall,
From equilibrous grace,
And the God-ess-ence,
Of total comprehension,
Into the quasi-reality,
Of disequilibrious,
Oscillating states of consciousness.

We e volute outward from an involution,
With seven planes and seven faces,
Sometimes diverging and then converging,
In eternal transformation,
From the unknown to the known,
In orbiting trajectories,
That are forever approaching,
The critical proximity,
Of absolute truth.

Intellect beyond time,
Purpose preceding space,
Falling in and out of love,
The interrelationships of God-ess-ence,
Encompasses all experience,
As limited, finite, quantum bits,
And their associated voids of space,
Tuned-out, as micro-fields of gravity ( ).
"U"niverse > UniVerse > universe > I-verse < you-verse < we-verse < them-verse
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Re: What would people say if God came down from the heavens?

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I'd ask: "How did I do, did I pass the test or did I just fail by having to ask?"..."what's the next step?"

-- Updated March 21st, 2017, 11:50 am to add the following --

Then I probably say: "sorry, I tried to be like those other people but I'm not a good test taker, I tend to overthink things"

-- Updated March 21st, 2017, 11:55 am to add the following --

..."looking for things far away and not being able to see what was in front of me the entire time"
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Re: What would people say if God came down from the heavens?

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Felix wrote:Well, we at least know what The Donald would say, "Damn undocumented dieties, build a big wall so no more can get in!!"
Something just occurred to me.

Has the Donald ever heard of aeroplanes? If they can smuggle in billions' worth of drugs on planes, they can smuggle in billions of Mexicans on planes, too.

Where there is a will, there is a way.

"No wall tall enough will keep me away; all men strong enough can show me the way."
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Re: What would people say if God came down from the heavens?

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I'd think and say this: How can I know for sure that you are the true universal god, or even if such a thing even exists? How can I know for sure that even if you communicate to me in such a way that makes my mind believe that you are that god, that in fact you aren't just some superior being who has the ability to manipulate my mind? How can I be sure that you aren't just that and nothing more, a being much superior to human beings, but not at all the true universal god, and again whether such a thing even truly exists? How can mere humans truly know for certain any of this stuff, no matter if some god-like entity tells us it is god or not. It may or may not be true, but as mere humans we can certainly easily be deceived by far superior powers in the universe, which may or may not be the true universal god, which may or may not even exist.
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Re: What would people say if God came down from the heavens?

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Pelegrin_1 I think the same applies to all things in life, you evaluate it and conclude for yourself. I think you may be open minded and rather than dismissing something because of what somebody says, you wait and gather many perspectives until you have enough information to make your mind up. Have a look at my picture, this is Mother Earth but viewed as a complete body, where the tail of Antarctica becomes part of the World body. I study the evolution of life on Earth to this pattern. So here is a super structure on which you lay your head, it is not God but a step closer, it is physical and true, but how do you perceive this now?

Belindi Another part of the internet discussions is that you find sites of interest and people with similar interests. I participate on a few discussion forums and have tried many others. Different characters or personalities seem to attach to certain sites and suddenly you have learned friends and it can become intellectually comforting and addictive. The discussions we have are not necessarily shared with others in our everyday life and so we express them here, but by expressing them here it also gives you more views and confidence in sharing them with certain others around us. Many interested learned friends are simply all here in this one room. I recon it would be most amazing if one day everybody here got together for a weekend gathering. There I believe you may find a trend, those that hide the most, would be more different in person compared to those with no walls.
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Re: What would people say if God came down from the heavens?

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Barry Sears wrote:
I recon it would be most amazing if one day everybody here got together for a weekend gathering. There I believe you may find a trend, those that hide the most, would be more different in person compared to those with no walls.
"One can smile and smile and be a villain" said Hamlet and I agree. So The most physically and socially unpreposessing person is as likely to be honest and forthright as the most charming and beautiful person.

Back to the OP's question, God did descend from on high in the persons of Jesus Christ and other avatars. These stories of avatars may be taken as thought experiments rather like the OP's question. Jesus had a pretty good answer "By their fruits you shall know them". That's how one identifies what manifestations are good or bad.
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Barry Sears wrote:Pelegrin_1 I think the same applies to all things in life, you evaluate it and conclude for yourself. I think you may be open minded and rather than dismissing something because of what somebody says, you wait and gather many perspectives until you have enough information to make your mind up. Have a look at my picture, this is Mother Earth but viewed as a complete body, where the tail of Antarctica becomes part of the World body. I study the evolution of life on Earth to this pattern. So here is a super structure on which you lay your head, it is not God but a step closer, it is physical and true, but how do you perceive this now?
But therein lies the problem with the specific question about a universal god. It is such a beyond human consideration, well beyond anything really, that as a mere human (as mere humans) I cannot ever form a conclusion about it with any kind of real certainty. If I am prone to want to believe it, then likely I will convince myself that I have enough information and capacity to make a conclusion that it is so, based on whatever degree of evidence I am presented with. If I am prone not to believe it, then I will likely or almost certainly take the opposite perspective. But as for myself, I simply and purely question the human capacity to be able to know such things, to be able to confirm such things, and leave open the possibility that there may always be some other explanation that's beyond my human capacity to know or realize. And therefore, I simply prefer not to choose one option or the other, and think that the only "correct" option is to always question my judgment, and human judgment in general, in regards to knowing anything about a possible universal god, and that includes the possibility that some superior entity may present itself to me as being that god, and whether I can really know that that is true or not.
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There Is No Heaven Above

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There exists no heaven which God/Universe can come down from. This whole heaven above--- where is that exactly? ---and hell below-- life on Earth ---stems from ancient peoples following of freshwater-- critical to biological life ---in rivers that come from the Himalayan mountains ergo the source of life was high the mountains.

The next higher above the mountains is the atmosphere where we get rain and rain as snow. Beyond that is the stars and beyond humans reach. The stars are in heaven above and beyond human access.

This above is all based on flat Earth concept where heaven is above and hell is below.

Humans beyond this flat Earth knowledge base at least two thousand years ago if not even further back, than that.

Where have all the rational people gone, long time passing, where have all the logical people gone, a long long time ago,

Where has all, the common sense gone, gone to the winds, blowing around, when will they ever learn, when will the ever learn?.

Sung to folk song tune. r6

Rr6 wrote: Universe/God is the wall and all else. The wall that acts as a buffer-zone between our observed physical/energy/time/frequency/sine-wave ^v^v\/\/\ and the macro-infinite non-occupied space, is;
1} spirit-3, metaphysical-3, ultra-micro gravity ( ) and,
2} spirit-4, metaphysical-4, dark energy )(.
We ( * * ) cannot get out of our finite, occupied space Universe/God aka Uni-V-erse.
(^v )(v^)
(\/\/\ )(/\/\/)
Outside.......( *In* )....Outside
Outside....( Universe/God )......Outside
Outside.....Uni-V-erse/God....Outside
Cosmic Evoluting Transformations
By Rybo6 alias Os-Jbug
From the synergetic concentric heirarchy,
To the action of the toroidal process,
So begins our fall,
From equilibrous grace,
And the God-ess-ence,
Of total comprehension,
Into the quasi-reality,
Of disequilibrious,
Oscillating states of consciousness.

We e volute outward from an involution,
With seven planes and seven faces,
Sometimes diverging and then converging,
In eternal transformation,
From the unknown to the known,
In orbiting trajectories,
That are forever approaching,
The critical proximity,
Of absolute truth.

Intellect beyond time,
Purpose preceding space,
Falling in and out of love,
The interrelationships of God-ess-ence,
Encompasses all experience,
As limited, finite, quantum bits,
And their associated voids of space,
Tuned-out, as micro-fields of gravity ( ).
"U"niverse > UniVerse > universe > I-verse < you-verse < we-verse < them-verse
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Re: What would people say if God came down from the heavens?

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For me the concept is similar to the Russian Doll"s idea where the same pattern lives within a larger version of the next. The comment Belindi uses Jesus had a pretty good answer "By their fruits you shall know them" The idea the human body was this template is a traditional physical solution but the reality is the physical forms are as we see them. The Earth to me is a template from head to tail and life forms on Earth are a scaled version of this. I see our Celestial surroundings as a scaled up version of this, as a form also from head to tail. Contemplating larger forms, becomes easier from here. Life here though is a complete manifested expression of the larger energy systems. If you consider the concept that life starts from small to big, then this also applies although the big has already been formed, in the forms of Galaxies and solar systems. For us here, life around us has evolved based on these larger influential energy systems. The Earth is forged and by its position and movement through the Goldilocks zone, life on Earth evolves from a template to a forest of interrelated life forms, but the same pattern is evident in the unique characteristics directly linked to the anatomy of the World body.
Perhaps the Universal concept of God is different for us now, knowing through the aid of science and technology that thousands of Galaxies exist and so a God figure becomes harder to conceptualise. For ancient civilisations the use of the naked eye and ancient knowledge the Universal God form may have been much smaller as a Universal figure and concept.

Communication is a key, what language do you use, or have you developed to talk to larger structures? You may use your tongue, but to hear, how would you listen?
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