Some thoughts on what lies beyond the universe

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Some thoughts on what lies beyond the universe

Post Number:#1  Postby Fr1sket » July 12th, 2017, 6:10 pm

I am totally serious here. Do you comprehend what I'm saying below? I'm just wondering if some random strangers would understand the idea I'm trying to impart.

If there is nothing behind the universe, what lies behind the nothing? it's not nothing, it's what we simply can't see, beyond human capacity perhaps. Well why can't that nothing be a stage of an event in something much bigger? We can't imagine what's beyond the universe so we call it void of anything. Anything WE know. We could be a string of explosions, or even one, created by an extremely intelligent form of life, creating simulations for their intense study. Why can't this be the case?

Because if you look at nothing as an idea, somehow during the existence of itself, something disturbed it and resulted in causing something to exist, We formed from a point, that point must have come from somewhere? and so on, so forth. This leads us to create a mental abstractness in order to allow the creation of the idea of nothing to exist. But what if that nothing is merely a frame in something existing outside of its conceptuality? What if it's something sort of switch that was turned on somehow? Sure there was an explosion, but not just of matter, lots of hidden material was brought into existence too. The issue lies in the nothing outside, how did it create something? If nothing was all there was how does something appear? Nothing should be happening, understand - there is a nothing. Everything doesn't exist remember?
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Post Number:#2  Postby -1- » July 12th, 2017, 7:25 pm

Beyond the known universe there must be something or there must be nothing.

And in-between there are doors.
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Post Number:#3  Postby -0+ » July 17th, 2017, 7:13 pm

Fr1sket wrote:If there is nothing behind the universe, what lies behind the nothing? it's not nothing, it's what we simply can't see, beyond human capacity perhaps. Well why can't that nothing be a stage of an event in something much bigger? We can't imagine what's beyond the universe so we call it void of anything. Anything WE know. We could be a string of explosions, or even one, created by an extremely intelligent form of life, creating simulations for their intense study. Why can't this be the case?


This can be the case. Anyone can create a primitive universe and know that something was behind the creation of it. If something can be behind the creation of a primitive universe, something could be behind the creation of this universe too, but this only pushes back the question ... What was behind the creation of that something? Another something?

There could be a long chain of somethings that led to the creation of this universe ... What was behind the creation of the first something?

Or there could be a cycle of somethings that create each other with no beginning or end ... What could be behind the creation of such a cycle?

Fr1sket wrote:Because if you look at nothing as an idea, somehow during the existence of itself, something disturbed it and resulted in causing something to exist,


The idea of nothing is something. Nothing may depend on something for its existence. Some thing is needed to apply no(ne) to this (like atheism depends on theism for its existence). Likewise, something may depend on nothing for its existence. Nothing and something may be mutually dependent (at least conceptually).

Or nothing and something may be mutually exclusive ... If there is ever truly absolutely nothing, there can never be something. If there has ever been something, there can never be nothing, and anything that might appear to be nothing is actually potential something (like potential and kinetic energy, there could be different states of something and a law of conservation may apply to thing-ness) ...

Fr1sket wrote:The issue lies in the nothing outside, how did it create something? If nothing was all there was how does something appear?


These are fundamental questions.

What is nothing divided by nothing?
(A) nothing?
(B) one-thing?
(C) infinite-thing?
(D) undefined?
(E) all of the above?

This can almost suggest how anything can arise from nothing, except that divided-by is something ...

If nothing and something are mutually exclusive and something is experienced, then absolutely nothing becomes an impossibility and there must have always been something. Atheists and theists can agree there is an eternal something. This eternal something could be called God, Tao, or some non-religious name. It doesn't matter what it is called. The primary question can be: What is the nature of this eternal something? Anyone can try to find or invent an answer to this question or accept that is a mystery.
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