Earth if it Was up to Me

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Re: Earth if it Was up to Me

Post by Gulnara » November 7th, 2017, 8:15 pm

Thought the same thing, religion. :)
Moon has no oceans, yet it had ( if we beleave NATO) people on it, who cares if only for few hours, it still had them ! :) Hahaha!

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Re: Earth if it Was up to Me

Post by Count Lucanor » November 8th, 2017, 7:35 am

Steve3007 wrote:Moon-worship? Donut-worship?

The latter is already practised in some parts of the world.
Yes, but I was actually thinking about the moon's tendency to crash on the donut's surface. The doubts about whether it will crash or not, why and when, will certainly open the door to teleologies and from them, religions would arise.

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Re: Earth if it Was up to Me

Post by Steve3007 » November 8th, 2017, 8:10 am

Gulnara:
Moon has no oceans, yet it had ( if we beleave NATO) people on it, who cares if only for few hours, it still had them ! :) Hahaha!
The North Atlantic Treaty Organisation says that the moon used to be populated? Are you sure? You seem a tad delirious in this post, if you don't mind me saying so. Possibly moonstruck?

Count:
Yes, but I was actually thinking about the moon's tendency to crash on the donut's surface. The doubts about whether it will crash or not, why and when, will certainly open the door to teleologies and from them, religions would arise.
Ah. I see. Yes, I can see how that might lead, at the very least, to some lively bets or sweepstakes as to where the moon might land. And maybe even religions. Lunar end-timers. It would be a good subject for gambling because if the moon started out precisely in the centre of the donut's hole then a vanishingly small perturbation would push it in an unpredictable direction. It would be a classic chaotic system. A huge roulette ball with the inner surface of the donut acting as the wheel.

If the donut is made from super-hard material (as discussed previously) then perhaps the people living on the far side of the donut might survive the lunar collision. If they're not well-travelled, they may even doubt the existence of the moon.

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I propose that the people living on the inner-facing surface would have a culture which would be much more fatalistic and superstitious than those living on the outer-facing surface. I think they'd often say things like "it's all in the lap of the gods" or "as flies to wanton boys, to the gods are we. They kill us for their sport."

This is because the inners are permanently faced with a huge unpredictable moon but the outers see only the predicable and orderly sun and stars. So they'd say things like "We are men of science. We fear no worldly perils."

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Re: Earth if it Was up to Me

Post by Gulnara » November 9th, 2017, 1:57 pm

I was jocking about Armstrong being on a Moon. That would mean Moon had people on it, no matter for how short period of time! Hahaha!

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Re: Earth if it Was up to Me

Post by Count Lucanor » November 9th, 2017, 2:55 pm

Steve3007 wrote:
Count:
Yes, but I was actually thinking about the moon's tendency to crash on the donut's surface. The doubts about whether it will crash or not, why and when, will certainly open the door to teleologies and from them, religions would arise.
Ah. I see. Yes, I can see how that might lead, at the very least, to some lively bets or sweepstakes as to where the moon might land. And maybe even religions. Lunar end-timers. It would be a good subject for gambling because if the moon started out precisely in the centre of the donut's hole then a vanishingly small perturbation would push it in an unpredictable direction. It would be a classic chaotic system. A huge roulette ball with the inner surface of the donut acting as the wheel.

If the donut is made from super-hard material (as discussed previously) then perhaps the people living on the far side of the donut might survive the lunar collision. If they're not well-travelled, they may even doubt the existence of the moon.

I propose that the people living on the inner-facing surface would have a culture which would be much more fatalistic and superstitious than those living on the outer-facing surface. I think they'd often say things like "it's all in the lap of the gods" or "as flies to wanton boys, to the gods are we. They kill us for their sport."

This is because the inners are permanently faced with a huge unpredictable moon but the outers see only the predicable and orderly sun and stars. So they'd say things like "We are men of science. We fear no worldly perils."
I'm starting to see the social divisions created by these different conditions and the clash of ideologies. War has ensued and the alliances are taking shape.

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Re: Earth if it Was up to Me

Post by Georgeanna » November 10th, 2017, 4:55 am

Gulnara wrote:Lately I figured that the way our planet is is an outrage. When we first learn about Earth, we never object, we take things as they are. No one ever said, why there are such enormous bodies of impanatrable water, the oceans? Why are there places where people can hardly live???
If it was up to me, our planet would not have oceans, what a waste of space. It would have one continent spread all over with enormous amount of rivers and lakes and gaizers. I want planet to be completely walkable and drivable. I do not want to need an ocean cruiser or an airplane to reach far lands. If it was upto me, our planet would not have deserts, another waste of space, nor would it have tall mountains. What is your vision for our planet if it was up to you?
Hmmm. I would keep the round shape and have it as a transparent bubble which could bounce around the Universe. Every being would have kaleidoscopic vision to enable infinite, ever-changing patterns of beauty or whatever is required for love, peace and harmony. And they would eat doughnuts all day long.
And a never-ending supply of sick bags at the ready :)

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Re: Earth if it Was up to Me

Post by Gulnara » November 10th, 2017, 9:10 pm

Sick bags? :)
I'd prefer people deriving energy in an electronic way, no food of any kind. If we don't eat animals, we might eventually start feeling sorry for devouring plants. :)
The bubble, I also thought of that. nO gravity, just sticky shoes. :)

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Yesterday, while reading book The Big House by George Howe Colt, I stumbled upon this —"In the Sacred Theory of the Earth, seventeen century divine Thomas Barnet maintained that before the biblical deluge, the face of the earth had been smooth, regular and uniform; without Mountains, and without a Sea." If that was so, where from my nostalgia came, and if not, I am not the only one dreamer.

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Re: Earth if it Was up to Me

Post by Georgeanna » November 11th, 2017, 9:18 am

Gulnara wrote:Sick bags? :)
I'd prefer people deriving energy in an electronic way, no food of any kind. If we don't eat animals, we might eventually start feeling sorry for devouring plants. :)
The bubble, I also thought of that. nO gravity, just sticky shoes. :)
It wasn't just about the food but dizziness associated with bouncing around the Universe and kaleidoscopic vision. Some trip :)

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Re: Earth if it Was up to Me

Post by Gulnara » November 11th, 2017, 4:45 pm

How thick the bubble? Would it hold the buildings? Would it have oil in it's cravices or gold, or diamonds? :) I sit paintable? I mena, will people make zebra stripes on the roads? What is it made of? Silicon? Plastic? Glass?

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Re: Earth if it Was up to Me

Post by Georgeanna » November 13th, 2017, 4:54 am

Gulnara wrote:How thick the bubble? Would it hold the buildings? Would it have oil in it's cravices or gold, or diamonds? :) I sit paintable? I mena, will people make zebra stripes on the roads? What is it made of? Silicon? Plastic? Glass?
My imagined bubble is similar to a snow globe. So we would be sleeping on the floor until shaken up by movement. This would activate the life force within. The whole globe could then bubble about the universe, banging into other life, death or zombie globes. Conceptions could be shattered but not the glass.

Or it could be on the shelf totally dormant until Christmas.

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Re: Earth if it Was up to Me

Post by Steve3007 » November 13th, 2017, 7:57 am

I like the bubble idea. There would be zero gravity everywhere inside the bubble. But presumably it would be filled with air to a pressure of 1 atmosphere. So we'd have vastly more space to play in than we currently have.

On the donut-Earth again:

In that world, presumably flat-Earthers would insist that the Earth is a disc with a hole in the middle.

-- Updated Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:10 pm to add the following --

Gulnara:
Yesterday, while reading book The Big House by George Howe Colt, I stumbled upon this —"In the Sacred Theory of the Earth, seventeen century divine Thomas Barnet maintained that before the biblical deluge, the face of the earth had been smooth, regular and uniform; without Mountains, and without a Sea." If that was so, where from my nostalgia came, and if not, I am not the only one dreamer.
I like that idea. If that smooth Earth didn't have an atmosphere either then we could have satellites orbiting a foot above the ground. We'd just have to jump every 90 minutes.

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I guess the Bubble-Earth could have satellites like that because, although there would be no gravity at all anywhere inside the bubble, if the mass of the bubble matter was the same as the mass of the Earth (in which case it would have to be very dense) then it would have a normal Earth-like gravitational field outside.

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Re: Earth if it Was up to Me

Post by Gulnara » November 13th, 2017, 12:45 pm

Perhaps somewhere in the Universe exists material of that sort, of high density and transparency., of which tthe buuble of Earth would be made. May be, it would also glow, work as natural computer screen/ hologramic theater/ scate rink/cemetery–open–house/ windex–hungry/ colors-changing/ water–impenetrable/ archival quality 3D recording disk configuring continuously best way to stay intact in the ever changing Universe.

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