How is value estimated?

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How is value estimated?

Post by Flassaw » November 4th, 2017, 3:00 pm

What grows and does not appreciate in value? What is built and does?

Please excuse my terseness. I'm trained in computer science, not philosophy. Regarding the query above, do you have any classifiers to offer (for example, "value ethics"), so that I may explore the literature with greater intent? A more meaningful conversation is intended.

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Re: How is value estimated?

Post by Albert Tatlock » November 4th, 2017, 5:17 pm

Flassaw wrote: A more meaningful conversation is intended.
Well a less meaningful one could hardly be envisaged.

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Re: How is value estimated?

Post by Alias » November 8th, 2017, 12:55 am

More like a riddle than a philosophical inquirey, innit?
Flassaw wrote:What grows and does not appreciate in value?
Crabgrass.
What is built and does?
R2000 housing in a fashionable suburb.

Why?

I'm not sure there is such an animal as "value ethics", or even whether those two words can be held together by a flimsy set of quotation marks.
How many kinds of value do you suppose humans have? How many of those are ruled or influenced by an ethic?
Before you can classify, you must clarify.

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Re: How is value estimated?

Post by Burning ghost » November 8th, 2017, 2:14 am

Albert Tatlock wrote:
Flassaw wrote: A more meaningful conversation is intended.
Well a less meaningful one could hardly be envisaged.
Seconded!

There is so much scope in this question it is hard to know where to start (ie. what approach holds the most "value")
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Re: How is value estimated?

Post by Spectrum » November 8th, 2017, 2:37 am

wiki wrote:Axiology (from Greek ἀξία, axia, "value, worth"; and -λογία, -logia) is the philosophical study of value. It is either the collective term for ethics and aesthetics[1], philosophical fields that depend crucially on notions of worth, or the foundation for these fields, and thus similar to value theory and meta-ethics. The term was first used by Paul Lapie, in 1902,[2][3] and Eduard von Hartmann, in 1908.[4][5]

Axiology studies mainly two kinds of values: ethics and aesthetics. Ethics investigates the concepts of "right" and "good" in individual and social conduct. Aesthetics studies the concepts of "beauty" and "harmony."
Formal axiology, the attempt to lay out principles regarding value with mathematical rigor, is exemplified by Robert S. Hartman's science of value.
I am for and into the quantification of morality and ethics.
If we do not put attempts into putting values for morality and ethics, we will be beating around the bush all the time without any improvements.

In quantifying morality and ethics we need to use the system approach so that all inter-connected variables are accounted for to support any moral or ethical decisions.
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Re: How is value estimated?

Post by Alias » November 8th, 2017, 11:55 am

If the question is one of axiology, the thread starter must categorically exclude material and monetary values, emotional and sentimental value, hierarchical status and strategic value before posing a specific question regarding either virtue or aesthetics.

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Re: How is value estimated?

Post by Burning ghost » November 8th, 2017, 12:24 pm

Flassaw -
What grows and does not appreciate in value? What is built and does?
The first answer would be "ignorance", and the second would be "knowledge".
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Re: How is value estimated?

Post by TimTimothy » November 8th, 2017, 4:16 pm

All value begins with limitation.

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Re: How is value estimated?

Post by TimTimothy » November 8th, 2017, 4:19 pm

Burning ghost wrote:Flassaw -
What grows and does not appreciate in value? What is built and does?
The first answer would be "ignorance", and the second would be "knowledge".
I'd reverse these. Knowledge feels complete. Ignorance longs for more. Therefore, ignorance grows. The more we know, the less we know.

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Re: How is value estimated?

Post by Burning ghost » November 9th, 2017, 4:25 am

Tim -

That is basically what I said?

"What grows and does not appreciate in value" ? My ans. Ignorance.
"What is 'structured' and does appreciate in value"? My ans. Knowledge.

And, yeah, meaning is necessarily bound within some limit or there would be no meaning.
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Re: How is value estimated?

Post by TimTimothy » November 10th, 2017, 2:32 pm

Yeah...You probably were saying the same thing. I should have read more closely.

I go back and forth on the value of The Known and the value of The Unknown. There are times I think the Unknown holds more value.

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