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Georgeanna
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Re: What's happening here?

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Burning ghost wrote:I think I know the heart of the issue, but most people just don't like admitting it and talk of some serene idea of 'unity' without realizing the path to such nonsense never ends and is full of pain and suffering, and it may be for nothing.

Your dislike is dislike of yourself. Come to terms with all you hate in the world by understanding it is you at the heart, it is you effected, it is you who frames things the way you do.

It is really hard to really understand the seemingly endless depths this goes to. It is truly horrific to face let alone to begin to deal with it. If you've no idea what I'm talking about then be thankful for now, but be sure I am not talking in metaphors here. There is nothing more real and brutal than yourself, nothing more dangerously beautiful, hideously destructive or empty of meaning.

No one of sane mind will willfully seek out their own limit and teeter on the brink.
I think you got it in one. I'm laughing so hard right now, I'm crying. Don't ask me why...it's kinda brutally bitter-sweet :)
Steve3007
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Re: What's happening here?

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Maxcady10001:
Steve3007
What do you think of Burning Ghost' organization of everything liked or disliked with oneself at the center? If oneself is at the center does the system of nodes become a chain?
No, because the web/chain is a web/chain of causes and effects. The node that you're considering doesn't effect its topography. I suggested that it is a web, rather than a chain, because in general there are numerous effects from any given cause and numerous causes from any given effect.

The suggestion in the OP seems to be that if you dislike a particular event (i.e. a particular node) then you must implicitly dislike whatever caused that event and whatever happens as a result of that event. But, given that, as I've said, every event has multiple causes, if that is true then it must surely be a highly diluted dislike.

So, for example, Adolph Hitler's mother was one of the causes of Adolph Hitler. But by no means the only cause. So if you dislike the event called Adolph Hitler you probably don't dislike his mother anything like as much.
Chili
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Re: What's happening here?

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There is a type of 'dislike' which is very psychological and involves projection. This indeed is a type of dislike of oneself. So many other types of dislike are not like this at all. There is comfort, there are psychological aversions related to associations. A cat dislikes one food simply because of instinct. Evolution has not made it tasty, or the cat it used to some other food, or the cat was subjected to punishment and shocks when shown that food previously. Dislike is a huge tent with all kinds of things in it.
Maxcady10001
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Re: What's happening here?

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Steve3007
Although highly diluted, dislike still spreads to all nodes.
Chili
I've only just understood what you've been trying to tell me. You've attacked the meaning and reason behind the verb I used. Dislike is all physiological.
Anyone
If someone says an event should not have happened, are they saying all events shouldn't have happened?
Steve3007
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Re: What's happening here?

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Although highly diluted, dislike still spreads to all nodes.
I guess it's kind of homeopathic dislike.
Chili
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Re: What's happening here?

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Maxcady10001 wrote:Steve3007
Although highly diluted, dislike still spreads to all nodes.
Chili
I've only just understood what you've been trying to tell me. You've attacked the meaning and reason behind the verb I used. Dislike is all physiological.
Anyone
If someone says an event should not have happened, are they saying all events shouldn't have happened?
Take that stinky fish outside. Perhaps one only wishes to be insulated from the event, not that it shouldn't happen.
Maxcady10001
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Re: What's happening here?

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Take that stinky fish outside?
Chili
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Re: What's happening here?

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Maxcady10001 wrote:Take that stinky fish outside?
If I don't like the stinky fish you're eating, I can ask you to take it outside. This is not to say it has no merits for someone, just that I don't like it myself.
Maxcady10001
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Re: What's happening here?

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Then why post anything?
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