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The same would apply to anything a person likes, It would end up including every aspect of reality.
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I guess that would only be true if your dislike propagates through this web of cause/effect, from each node to the next, in a completely lossless way. If the web of cause and effect is a superconductor of dislike then, yes, if you dislike one thing you dislike everything. But I don't think it is. I think there is resistance.
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I suppose resistance might be caused by various things. Being a web, perhaps it would just be dispersion rather than resistance. You inject a certain quantity of dislike into the web at one node and as it spreads out it gets diluted.What is the resistance?
Only if it's a chain. Not if it's a web. Think of packet switching in the internet. Removing one computer from the web doesn't take down the entire internet.If I were to destroy one node, in a system where all nodes are connected, wouldn't it ruin the flow of the entire system?
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People respond to particular things. Not everyone overthinks - or even thinks - much about things like interconnectedness. People often imagine situations in terms of two sides or forces which are set off against one another: my sports team vs another, good vs evil, minimal government vs nanny state, etc, such that to dislike or even hate one thing is to be very much *for* the opposing thing. Humans very much like fresh food but generally despise rotting matter and there is no contradiction there that taints all of creation.Maxcady10001 wrote:So when disliking one thing, we are disliking everything? What you said before, about how destroying one node wouldn't ruin the flow of all nodes, would it just change the flow of the entire system?
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You are assiduously overthinking. My favorite joke about overthinking is the one from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:Maxcady10001 wrote:I would disagree about the contradiction. If a person says they like one sports team and hate another, that has to be a contradiction considering interconnectedness.
In a comical reversal of the image of the ostrich with its head in the sand, the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal is described as assuming that if you can't see it, then it can't see you.
And thus you can defend yourself against it by wrapping a towel around your head.
A lion chases zebras to eat them rather than chasing elephants - is this some sort of "contradiction" ?
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ok, sometimes lions attack and eat elephants. There are smells that people will tend to gravitate toward and others that people will flee from. Can you describe how this is some kind of contradiction?
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Your dislike is dislike of yourself. Come to terms with all you hate in the world by understanding it is you at the heart, it is you effected, it is you who frames things the way you do.
It is really hard to really understand the seemingly endless depths this goes to. It is truly horrific to face let alone to begin to deal with it. If you've no idea what I'm talking about then be thankful for now, but be sure I am not talking in metaphors here. There is nothing more real and brutal than yourself, nothing more dangerously beautiful, hideously destructive or empty of meaning.
No one of sane mind will willfully seek out their own limit and teeter on the brink.
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Burning Ghost
You mention all like or dislike stemming from like or dislike of oneself. How would you organize everything, as a chain or a web? If it all stems from oneself, it must be a chain. By everything, I mean the nodes me and Steve3007 were referring to earlier, the nodes making up every event and outcome.
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Steve3007
What do you think of Burning Ghost' organization of everything liked or disliked with oneself at the center? If oneself is at the center does the system of nodes become a chain?
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Please ignore all of my previous posts which have still to be approved, and so you cannot see at this particular moment of writing. **Maxcady10001 wrote:Chili said some people react to certain smells in different ways.
I get it. This thread is deliberately tangled in the way of a mystery murder.
It's murder, Jim, but not as we know it.
It's an holistic investigation as per Douglas Adam's Dirk Gently who operates on the fundamental interconnectedness of all things.
Now, do I get a prize, or what ??
Approval would do
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