Fine, that works for me.Maxcady10001 wrote: ↑December 17th, 2017, 1:16 amBy between us all, do you mean bean everything that makes up the universe, known and unknown?
Usually when I say 'Us all' it refers to all of us unique (momentary) Perspectives (Souls), all throughout the Universe, ever.
You say achieving unconditioned virtuosity is uncommon, but not impossible, yet it does defy human nature, to be unconditionally anything defies human nature.
"Human nature" is ego.
Ego is a swirling chaos of flickering images, some of which is believed to define a 'self' that can 'possess things', the common 'I am... (fill in the blank with whatever mirage thought/ego offers, at the moment)'.
From a religious Perspective, FWIW, is that thought/ego is the 'Forbidden Fruit' (tm), that blinds one to unconditional Love/Enlightenment! A powerful 'distraction'.
And the fruits of 'human nature' is history, even today.
Human nature can be transcended.
It happens more and more.
Yes! Thought = language = duality = conditional essentially not Reality! Words are lies if taken literally. Metaphor at best.Everything people do is conditional. We are having a conversation, under the condition we are both reasonable.
If there is 'context', there is 'condition'.
“Your task is not to seek for Love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” - RumiYou say you are showing me the way to unconditional virtuosity, but you're also telling me I have to be more than a human being. This does not seem fair.
tat tvam asi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tat_Tvam_Asi)
When conditional 'virtues' (of the ego) are mentioned, as in this topic, a natural response is balance.Also, you made this topic about the metaphysical by introducing unconditional virtues.
Imbalance always calls to balance!
The problem with the 'conditioned mind' is that it is impossible to conceive of the 'unconditional'. It must be experienced to be Known! Imag-ination is unequipped to handle the load! *__-