Greta wrote: ↑January 5th, 2018, 4:59 pm
I will reiterate my prior post because it was not addressed:
That is because you ignore the fact that progress accelerated around the time that women started to gain some rights, and continues to accelerate. You also ignore the fact that all of the most prosperous and capable nations have more gender equality while all of the worst, most divided, torn, dysfunctional and corrupt nations are much more patriarchal.
Stick to the topic Dachs
Look, you want to disenfranchise me. Are you surprised to find vigorous opposition? Did you expect me to lie back and just take it for Dachsie?
Why should you have the vote and I not? You are clearly less qualified to vote than I am - less informed (sprouting Breitbart propaganda), less intelligent (weak reasoning) and less moral (racist and sexist). I am not bragging because neither of us are so special; I'm just seemingly less limited than you in those areas. I expect that I much better understand the structure and function of the various levels of government than you do - yet you deem me unfit to vote.
I wonder what the real reason for your stance is because it surely isn't about logic.
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The reason for my stance? Let me explain.
First of all you have to understand that I'm a homeboy. I'm a homeboy in the sense that I was born and bred in the USA and I am proud of my roots. I love my country and my Western culture. Sadly for the past 50 years this great culture and everything it stands for have been attacked by a deadly enemy within, and right now it is in desperate trouble; it is literally fighting for its life and I am here to defend it.
In my OP, I proposed that we ( the beleaguered, war-weary men of the West should revoke women's suffrage. I said this because I sincerely believe it is one of the best battle strategies for saving our culture and the great civilization that we managed to build upon it.
If you want to know the logic behind my thing here it is.
We need to start at the very beginning, so I will commence my response by telling you a basic truth about life. This truth is that life is struggle. Where there is no struggle there is no progress. Human progress, that is, is not automatic nor is it inevitable. Every step forward towards the ultimate goal
which, by the way is FREEDOM, -(freedom from privation and tyranny) - takes it toll in sacrifice, suffering and struggle.Still, after countless wars, reformations, revolutions, Magna Cartas and constitutions mankind has to prevail in creating a genuinely free society; it is that great achievement we collectively refer to today as Western civilization. The freedoms that we in the West enjoy,were, as I say, not handed to us on a silver platter, they were hard fought and won over thousands of years of human history; hard fought and won, Greta, NOT by women but
always through the blood, sweat, toil and tears of MEN. I am referring to those magnificent freedoms we have in the modern West to say what we like, to believe what we like, to be the self-governing masters of our own destinies,
and above all else to be entitled to keep the vast majority of the fruits of our own labour. The securing of these freedoms represents the pinnacle of achievement in mankind's struggle to progress to a better life and a better world. We in the West are not subject to human tyranny in the form of tribal chieftains, warlords, dictators despots or religious theocracies who would enslave us for their own enrichment and pleasure, nor are we subject to natural privations and limitations in the form of hunger, thirst, famine, extremes of heat and cold, animal predators, etc.
It was, however, mainly by allowing people to keep the majority of the proceeds of their own time and effort and have agency over their own lives that the West made the incredible advances it did over the past 300 years ( which, Greta, is roughly when freedom began to become prevalent in our civilization, i.e. not with the advent of women's suffrage and the subsequent rise of the feminist movement it spawned which began ,in earnest, in the early 1970s). Moreover, this remarkable progress was chiefly delivered by
we - the white/Europid males of the West - we, the white/Europid males of the West were the ones who solved the problem of hunger,
we were the ones who discovered electricity and automation,
we were the ones who achieved flight and eradicated disease,
we were the ones who founded computing and unlocked the secrets of chemistry and nuclear and quantum physics and a trillion things more ! But all of this,
ALL OF IT (!) hinges on one critical thing, that being that people are allowed to stay free and, as I say, remain fully entitled to keep the vast majority of their own production and be the masters of their own lives. If we lose this, we lose EVERYTHING.
Enter in women.
(Because I anticipate that this reply to your queries will ultimately be quite lengthy, I have decided it might be best to deliver it not all at once in one giant post, but rather in a short series of bite-sized chunks. This , I hope, will avoid putting off any forum members or visitors with the formidable task of reading through one giant lump of text. So, that's all for now. I will resume my response to your questions from where I have left off above tomorrow).
Regards
Dachshund