What if the world is a simulation made out of numbers?
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What if the world is a simulation made out of numbers?
What if the world is a simulation made out of numbers and we humans are discovering bit by bit how we are made ? Because almost everything on earth created by nature has something mathematical in it. Like the rule of Fibonacci in the plant Achillea ptarmica, sunflowers, and even in our own bodies. So if at one point we have solved every single peace in the whole universe, will we know things like how we are created and how everything works? The problem here is that numbers can be so big and to solve every single peace in the universe is a lot of work we may never solve everything.
But what if there are no numbers? Is it something that humans have created to give logic to things? But the weird thing is how come that mathematical sollutions are right? Do we imagine that its right or is it really right? But then I still don't understand why it's seen in nature. I have so many questions about this and ill hope you'll have some ideas too.
Sorry if there are some grammatical mistakes, I'm not a native but i hope you will understand my idea.
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Although, it is not so simple to work out the relation between that machines master and the machine. Does the master (the knower) have an ultimate ground, prior to the machine or equa-primordial?
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Precisely! This is further evidenced by the fact that mathematics is a not an immutable construct.Wirius wrote:A common misunderstanding is that numbers exist beyond us. They don't. Numbers are logical abstract tools of identity we invented that follow the logic of our observed world. Math works because when it didn't, we eliminated it. Even then, math is at most an approximation of reality, not actual reality itself.
The phenomena came first, then the mathematics was layered onto it by Humans as a measure of the phenomena. Mathematics is not the framework of the phenomena, but merely the way we make sense of it.Preticours wrote:Because almost everything on earth created by nature has something mathematical in it. Like the rule of Fibonacci in the plant Achillea ptarmica, sunflowers, and even in our own bodies.
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However I must confess to myself, that what we have achieved through trying is nothing short of Gods without a pass to the heavens. Should we obtain one, time itself will change everything. We will be out of time, warped, displaced and somewhere else in time.
The great thinkers and the simplest ones have the same goal in life, to make it up as you go along, its just that.
Numbers just facilitate the dream until its real enough to matter.
I think of the universe like a moment, and in a moment.....there is all that matters. I guess.
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Note: the word "duck" could be replaced, if required, by the word "beer".
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I think the introduction of the term ‘simulation’ is misleading. If the world is made of numbers then it would not be a simulation. A simulation entail the existence of something that it simulates.
Some claim that the laws of nature are mathematical, that they determine the relationships of non-physical entities that form the structures of what we call physical objects. Max Tegmark is a well known proponent of this way of thinking. The problem is that he still makes use of “building blocks” that, if I understand it correctly, are not themselves mathematical entities. His claim is that it is not about properties of these building building blocks but their relationships. They form structures that we perceive of and conceive of as physical properties.
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Beautiful!Bryntyrch2016 wrote:I cant see an issue. IF the universes is made of numbers then fine. If its made up of gloopy stuff that's fine too. I have existence and friends and beer, and that's what my life is. What its MADE of isn't very important, unless the material matters (pun intended).
Also, if we are in a simulation, then what came first to be simulated? Are our creators also simulations in an endless line of sims following the first hyper advanced life to appear in the universe? If we are sims then the regression problem remains, and we also should be working hard to investigate the Planck scale to see what "cheats" are available since that would be the domain of 1s and 0s, where the code lies.
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