Post Number:#46 December 20th, 2011, 11:48 am
Exogen wrote:Xris wrote:The observer has not the ability to classically measure quantum properties. The dual nature of particles does not allow you. You do not change the properties by simply looking at them, that's magic. I can understand philosophers grasping at this like kids in sweet shop but lets not stuff ourselves with probabilities and call it reality.
Or maybe the philosophers are not as ignorant as you think they are and you are just not seeing the subtleties of their points?
The issue isn't between probabilities or certainties because science only deals in probabilities anyway. And on the subject of observer relative reality, I would argue independent of any scientific theory, that reality is observer relative. Making a metaphysical argument is anything but "magic." You keep tossing that word around, but I have yet to see you put forth any philosophical arguments.
If my explanation is not sufficient for you to grasp my point of view, sorry but there is nothing else to add. You may believe your observer reality is different to mine but as you have never experienced my reality , how can you tell? If the QM world is built of probabilities why do keep insisting it is observer controlled and everything is indeterminate. I am only assuming it is not proved but you insist it is.