Scott wrote:
What do you think?
Size 12 all the way. Slimmer than size 12 but much fuller than size 6 would probably be even more aesthetically eye pleasing. My view at least.
Marylin Monroe would be considered fat by today's fashion model standards.
It's well know Black-American males and Latino males of varying hues like women with a so-called "little meat on their bones." Both are often times butt men too - contrasted to their North American peers that were largely breast men before the advent of Jennifer Lopez stardom. But even the majority of White-American men do not like anorexic looking women.
The deeper question is what is driving this skinny phenomenon in the fashion world which then influences the consumer world?
I don't think most want to find the real answer to that question. I don't suppose I know the answer with certainty myself. However, given the men in the behind the scenes fashion industry are disproportionately homosexual, I'm open to the very unPC possibility that these males ideas of sexy and beauty, correlated with the physiques of teenage boys or prepubescent boys as well, may be filtering down.
But it may not be that. That's a possibility as well.
I did hear some wear that clothing designers when they have fashion shows want their clothes to be the focal point of the run way and not the model. Ergo, a woman with tiny breasts and thin frame on who's body the clothing is draped.
But
if in fact mostly women and homosexual males disproportionately dominate the running of the fashion industry
then the blame lies to a far greater degree with the two than with your typical heterosexual male population. An impossible scenario for the male or female feminist I'll admit because their philosophy and political sympathies and goals at all times seeks to make the female the victim.
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Misty wrote:Hi chazwyman,
If your read all the posts you will find woman/women have given opinions.
It does not matter what a woman looks like as there will be men that will degrade them. It is a way to make women feel insecure and needy leading to more effort to try to please the male. Of course, there are always exceptions so all males do not do this.
I would contend, Misty, that competition within a species is a part of biological evolution. The sub-theory of sexual selection proposes that females enjoy a much greater advantage than males. This contradicts the normal beliefs of the general population. But then... the general population once militantly believed the sun revolved around the earth and the earth as the center of the universe.
What the biological sciences has taught us is that it is very rare that a female will end up without a male mate (presuming she is not lesbian). But it is quite typical that a certain portion of males will end up with no female mate (presuming they are not homosexual) at all. By far the female is the greatest discriminator of the two sexes the science of biology has taught us.
Sexual selection tells us - if I can give my own analogy - that when it comes to the distribution of mates of the opposite sex that females are Switzerland (distribution of wealth) and males are Brazil (distribution of wealth). It's far more rare among females that one woman is married to 20 men. You'll find this phenomenon far more often among men. Osama Bin Laden for example was the 50th or so child of his father that had a large number of wives. Osama Bin Laden himself had many wives.
On the other hand... there are males that will live all their lives zero female mate. We see this clearly among Gorillas. The Silver-back has several female mates while other male Gorillas will never have one.
What qualifies as a "good mate" is often defined by superficial qualities. At least, in my opinion.
In my early 20's employed by the United States Marine Corps I was rejected (often not kindly) by 99.9% of women in the U.S. - but really I should limited that to the small population size of Black-American females because that's who I courted 95% - 99% of the time. I still had a big problem with acne then and the Navy would not prescribe me acutine in case I was deployed to war and antibiotics or something wouldn't work on me. Something like that. I was/am short too. I was smaller built male too. I was not as "gangster" as that which appealed to most black females of my generation either. This from women obese to women with skin diseases and 99% of the women I courted were poor and on welfare. Females are severe discriminators. More so than males. The silver-back Gorilla won't think so and neither will his relative equivalent among male
Homo sapiens.
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Image of me maybe 10 or so years ago. Before I was shot multiple times (a year ago). I've lost some weight due to that and have to rebuild my size back.
Photo:
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June 28th, 2012, 10:01 pm
