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No help at all
No help at all
Misrepresentations are no help at all
And repetition is boring.
How can anyone (aside from conservative politicians with fossil fuel interests) NOT know the problems? It's akin to not noticing that there's a lot of technology around these days.
When did I ever claim that the biosphere's reformation would be pleasant, convenient or safe? Yup, we might all die pointlessly and horribly tomorrow. It's possible. There's always a risk that supervolcanoes, asteroids and other rogue objects, or nukes will prevent the Earth from being able to reproduce itself on other worlds via intelligent species.
Not all organisms get to reproduce either, and one can't presume that biology on living planets will reach its potentials and more than it can be presumed of a child. There are no guaranteed happy endings, only possibilities.
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Feel free to keep bailing cupfuls of water out of the sinking Titanic. I left that daisy chain a while ago so you'll now find me jamming with the band as it takes last requests.
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But how can you justify spending a single moment self-indulgently relaxing with coffee when there is a planet to save! Yikes! You should be out there every waking moment, fighting the good fight! To do otherwise is to give up! Don't stop now, Jan! Do you think being a mere 92 gives you the excuse to slacken off and start enjoying yourself for no good reason when the world is in such a state?? Tsk tsk tsk indeed. Alas, they don't seem to make old people like they used to
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I was just teasing, of course - you have surely paid your duesJan Sand wrote: ↑May 4th, 2018, 6:40 amI have no idea how old you might be, but just restocking my kitchen is stretching my physical limits so the least I can manage is to inspire bright people like yourself not to throw in the towel. Panic is quite energizing when properly directed.And unnecessary deprivation by not eating breakfast is just a weird form of useless torture. If nothing else, I might inspire second thoughts in you.
Theists on other forums have often tries to inspire or shame me into being religious, and they regularly point out the great efficacy of their faiths to convince me to switch to "their side". Such efforts meet similar stony ground because they assume that others attend these forums for the same reasons as they do. People come to these forums for various reasons, with many hoping to promote their little causes or brainwaves.
I don't chat about life's deeper issues to save my soul or the world - I'm just curious, not much keen on small talk, enjoy having people test and question my ideas, plus a side interest in being more accepting of death and other things I can't control.
More than anything I want to know what is going on in the big picture - what is becoming and what stage we are at in that journey. For all we know, the Earth's life might be akin to an embryo, a foetus, a baby, a child, a teenager, a young adult, a mature adult, in decline or on death's door. In terms of potential growth and development, humanity could be any of these things.
So my attitude could probably be encapsulated as "Yes, we are all doomed, but that's okay in the long term". In terms of morality, I have simple tenets - to try to be kind and to operate with a light touch.
The dinosaurs were doomed and that turned out well, for nature is structured so that growth relies on destruction. Naturally, there are no guarantees. Wondering whether this current extinction event will turn out as positively in the long term as the Cretaceous–Paleogene event is akin to wondering whether any living system will manage to grow to maturity. Sometimes things works out, sometimes not.
I'll see the Chomsky video later.
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My latest blog on the brain game at https://jansandhere.wordpress.com/ is an attempt to discern what we are about.
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Humans will encounter a similar problem in that they are accustomed to high energy lifestyles. The masses that brought humanity its initial empowerment in nature are the ones in danger. The elites plus their circles are obviously at some risk, but FAR less. Imagine the scale of event needed to make Trump think twice about ignoring environmental concerns. It would need to be so many disasters of such magnitude that his own formidably insulated existence was impacted.
Nice blog and poetry. Your Coming Out poem reminds me of a thought that occurred to me - that we are thrown into this world confused, kicking and scream and not so much changes afterwards :)
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It seems much more hopeless now than it did back then. "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one" is becoming less true all the time.Steve3007 wrote:But is there a role in life for this kind of hopeless idealism?
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