Is Art Beautiful?
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Is Art Beautiful?
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I think an object becomes art when we look at it AS art. Simple as that. Ask me if my cup is a work of art and my attention at once goes to its form, color, texture, and so on. Not it's art,but its is not when I am using it as a cup. My attention makes it art, literally. So, it then goes to whether my experiences regarding the cup taken AS art are indeed art experiences, does it not? Then, your question would take the matter to experiences: some are aesthetic, some not. Which is which? Clearly, the taking up of an object AS art is what is at issue, for when it is taken up thusly, what happens in experience that makes my taking it up, taking it up AS art? What have I done within?
This is where I think your question goes. The hard part is making the concept of art sufficiently exclusive of what is not art. Taking someting AS art is the beginning, but then, how does this work?
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Art clearly doesn't have to be beautiful, just as music can be dissonant and literature can be horrific. Beauty is merely a genre.TigerNinja wrote: ↑February 28th, 2018, 5:43 pm Art is often conceived of as being beautiful. A mesh of vibrant, tones and colours splashed onto a canvas in such a way that it becomes appealing to our senses. They always have a form of beauty, be it the ideological concept they are trying to give you, or the social commentary as in Grayson Perry's pieces, or simply the symbolism behind them. But despite saying that, does art necessarily have to be beautiful? Tell me your opinions below!
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Is man beautiful? Are all men beautiful? Are there degrees of beauty? What is art anyway
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I agree. "Does art necessarily have to be beautiful?" Absolutely not, just my opinion.LuckyR wrote: ↑March 8th, 2018, 1:31 amArt clearly doesn't have to be beautiful, just as music can be dissonant and literature can be horrific. Beauty is merely a genre.TigerNinja wrote: ↑February 28th, 2018, 5:43 pm Art is often conceived of as being beautiful. A mesh of vibrant, tones and colours splashed onto a canvas in such a way that it becomes appealing to our senses. They always have a form of beauty, be it the ideological concept they are trying to give you, or the social commentary as in Grayson Perry's pieces, or simply the symbolism behind them. But despite saying that, does art necessarily have to be beautiful? Tell me your opinions below!
Beauty usually means means accessible, pretty, or harmonious, sweet.
The work of Joseph Beuys or Anselm Kiefer, Cy Twombly, Richard Serra, most of Picasso, Willem de Kooning, ain't beautiful at all.
In my own head, there is a poetic elegance that I look for in art. It could be called a kind of beauty, but that's my personal take on the word.
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I agree. "Does art necessarily have to be beautiful?" Well, no, just my opinion.LuckyR wrote: ↑March 8th, 2018, 1:31 amArt clearly doesn't have to be beautiful, just as music can be dissonant and literature can be horrific. Beauty is merely a genre.TigerNinja wrote: ↑February 28th, 2018, 5:43 pm Art is often conceived of as being beautiful. A mesh of vibrant, tones and colours splashed onto a canvas in such a way that it becomes appealing to our senses. They always have a form of beauty, be it the ideological concept they are trying to give you, or the social commentary as in Grayson Perry's pieces, or simply the symbolism behind them. But despite saying that, does art necessarily have to be beautiful? Tell me your opinions below!
Beauty usually means means accessible, pretty, or harmonious, sweet.
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Much art is deliberately ugly or beauty neutral.TigerNinja wrote: ↑February 28th, 2018, 5:43 pm Art is often conceived of as being beautiful. A mesh of vibrant, tones and colours splashed onto a canvas in such a way that it becomes appealing to our senses. They always have a form of beauty, be it the ideological concept they are trying to give you, or the social commentary as in Grayson Perry's pieces, or simply the symbolism behind them. But despite saying that, does art necessarily have to be beautiful? Tell me your opinions below!
There are subjects that art is used to reach which involve ugliness, necessarily.
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So ask yourself: do I want to love this or that art piece, or do I just want to have sex with it?
Your answer should give you the answer.
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I should have thought that the boundary between art and science always overlaps.
****, I am picking nits.
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Both art and science remain outside of political manipulations. No matter what the physical reality and aesthetic appeal of “beauty” will always override any political suppression. We hear a beautiful piece of harmonious music and will stop to listen (that won’t chnage), we watch TV and cannot deny the benefits and understanding achieved through the scientific endeavor.
Both reasoning and aesthetic appreciation are innate. It is up to us to hone them and no matter what people do good understanding and “beauty” will always shine through the darkness of ignorance and apathy.
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And taking something someone says as a cut and dry statement with bothering to think of the nuances (or regard the purposeful use of parenthesis) is plainly political.Jan Sand wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2018, 5:01 am Art is not only visual art, it is creative communication through many domains of perception and this communication cannot neglect politics since politics is intimately involved with many avenues of being alive. Of course politics is only one of many areas as is beauty. And art has a much wider spectrum than beauty alone.
If one wishes to state that eveyrthing is “art”/“political”/“scientific”/“creativity”/“communication” then one can do so. I’d rather not here thanks
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