What is Art?
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There is neither love nor hate
Enmity nor impotence
In the guts of this exploding continuum.
Fire and frost do not gain or lose.
In strains of melodies that sing of everything.
The heaving of the heavens does not plan
In exercise for the fate of man in demise
Or conquests of eternity.
It is in our hands and minds to bind
Or dissolve our beginnings
Or our ends.
We can stand and wait
For a chaotic fate
To spin and twist
Whether we maintain, exist,
Or vanish in a flare of despair.
It is up to us to care.
It’s up to us to provide.
There’s no place to run.
There’s no place to hide.
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The last novel I read was Death in the Family, by James Agee from which his Knoxville, Summer 1915 was taken up by Samuel Barber in music. The piece is here, if you care to listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTR3oCCek74
The novel is about the lives of those in bound in their lives and feelings to tragedy. What I like about this novel is, as Agee intended, the absurd juxtaposition of our familiar lives and the profundity we face in the would we are born into. The novel, and the Barber work, throw this into high relief. That is what a good tragic novel should do: it is not the tragedy as such, it is the way the routine everydayness of things collide with the depth of our boundness to everything. We are suddenly out of our element. Philosophy begins here.
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That is one way to look at it, and I find interpretative leanings go toward consequences and long run scenarios. My interests go to "the urgency of the current human status". I take this urgency at the level of the real, within the experience of actual livings beings and not so much the abstraction of political crises (which I presume you have in mind with "the mounting disaster which will destroy us all").Jan Sand
Whatever the quality of my comment may be insofar as poetry is concerned, I cannot say, bu it was made as a statement for its philosophical implication. If the urgency of current human status is not recognized to a level far greater than current activity is demonstrated to promote proper dynamic reaction, then the mounting disaster which will destroy us all in the very near future cannot be avoided.
But then, there is a crisis looming, a Malthusian crisis, a crisis of inflated nationalism, a crisis of fear and loathing, and so on.
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How about appreciation of once being a four year old? Surely that is not something you had when you were four.Your true concern in attempting to convey what you feel is very important and is very impressive and I am grateful for your effort. My own concerns are seated in my concept, not as a human, since, even as a child I felt as a stranger in a strange land although I spent my first 35 years as a New Yorker, I have lived in Paris, West Berlin, Oak Ridge Tennessee, Tel Aviv, and ended here in Helsinki. I have never felt at home anywhere and I have never identified with what is called humanity. And, more basically. I never found anything more attractive in being a mature human better than being a four year old child.
Sad story. I only hope you’re exaggerating for dramatic effect.
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Humanity will always face problems. We’re not doing terribly badly at all. The environment is an issue, but the youth is MUCH more aware of the problem due to how education has been flooded with concerns for global warming and such. The generations coming through right now are getting to it.
Don’t worry about the planet it’ll go on regardless of us hummies (and not feeling like you’re part of humanity is ikely the most distinct sign that you are.)
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There is more genuine human suffering now than at any time in history.Burning ghost wrote: ↑August 27th, 2018, 12:53 pm You have my condolences. My life seems to be getting better overall and I certainly don’t pine for my four year old self.
Humanity will always face problems. We’re not doing terribly badly at all.
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Looks like we have a bit of thread bleed.Hereandnow wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2018, 11:32 am Sorry, but this 'god' term you use is too ambiguous to understand. What do you mean by it, or, what is it that Wikipedia means, that you in turn mean?
There are many "God" threads, this is ART!
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2023/2024 Philosophy Books of the Month
Mark Victor Hansen, Relentless: Wisdom Behind the Incomparable Chicken Soup for the Soul
by Mitzi Perdue
February 2023
Rediscovering the Wisdom of Human Nature: How Civilization Destroys Happiness
by Chet Shupe
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