What is true love

Oh, a cynic, having fun. That's great, but use your own words instead of harvested ones.

In your case, please use harvested words instead of your own. They'd be more interesting. (Besides, I can't write as well as Dorothy Parker.)

For myself, love (for a man) was a state of total acceptance and potential self sacrifice. This same feeling still applies to my sister.

An absolute lie because there's no such thing or at best an extremely "temporary" feeling.

I gather the OP's question is about "true love" between the sexes. With that in mind, I think true love would not hurt either the lover or loved one. True love between the sexes would not just use the other person for self gratification, then throw them away. True love would give what one wants. Since it is impossible to never hurt ones self or another person even in a so called 'true love' setting, I venture to say "True Love" does not exist. When one speaks of loving another person, one is more willing to care about that person in every way and will make amends when hurt inevitably surfaces. As a female I cannot even count the times a male in a committed relationship has said to me "I love my wife- girlfriend, but I would like to be with you." (sexually) (Last sentence modified for the sake of decent wording)

It seems that lust is the stronger of the two emotions and played out among humans more overall.

This conversation does not belong in this forum which is about 'the Arts'. I recommend thinking about which forum it belongs to, and indeed whether the conversation is philosophy, opinions, chitchat or psychology.

But is there true love?

Maybe if a girl loves a guy, and the guy loves another one, maybe the girl will feel disappointed. So I am unsure whether or not it is possible that love can be 100% happy, without depression or jealousy.

But the question I asked before is this: If love is so painful, then, why love? Why hurt yourself or why does a person love another girl who she does not love him in return?

So this is why I feel human beings are strange animals.

Maybe there are married women who are angry about me, when I said that it is not wrong if a married man has an affair with another woman, maybe there are women who are angry at me.

But look, at least I had the courage to say it, unlike those married men who want to do it, but who did not have the courage to say, and so they ask questions, hoping that I will say it for them, and then, they try to use my words to support what they feel as a justification to their wife, aand at the same time, they want to laugh at me behind my back.

Come on.

Is that heroic?

This conversation does not belong in this forum which is about 'the Arts'. I recommend thinking about which forum it belongs to, and indeed whether the conversation is philosophy, opinions, chitchat or psychology.

Can the topic and the posts be moved to the correct forum? Does the OP want a discussion on "What is true love" in the context of love being an art form?

Do not worry where it put. Because there is no section with the words 'Philosophy of Pyschology.' So, yes, I feel strange to put it in this section. But we can talk about the question.

I want to say: "Sometimes, I feel women pretend too much when they fall in love. Are they scared to expose what they feel, or are they doing it to not allowing the guys they love to grasp their psychology?"

Can you trust the words of you lover when you fall in love?

Hello Stanley Huang,

I think both males and females can be either faithfully or unfaithfully in "love." It is not just men that are deceptive in love. I am a women and I am not mad at you for saying what you think. Yes, humans are strange animals when it comes to love. One can love a person and still want to have sex with others. The key is making a commitment to love a person exclusively, i.e. with ones time, finances, body, and mind. However, no one can ever know another human to the point of knowing what is in their mind. Even the most loved man or woman will never be able to know if the 'heart' of the other person wanders. The bible says if a man lusts for a woman that is not his wife he has committed adultery in his heart. The heart/mind is hidden, therefore it is up to the owner of that heart to keep in under control.

But what I find annoying is that there are females who have double standards and hide about what they feel. Let's say, that a female flirt with another men who is not her husband, and then, he goes on to tell his husband not to have an affair. That is double standard and tricky too me. and they pretend that they are not a slut, not flirting.

Because if the female wants to flirt with a different man, why hide and why talk about double standard, and then, going on to give a false restriction to husband.

Is that sound right?

But what I find annoying is that there are females who have double standards and hide about what they feel. Let's say, that a female flirt with another men who is not her husband, and then, he goes on to tell his husband not to have an affair. That is double standard and tricky too me. and they pretend that they are not a slut, not flirting.

Because if the female wants to flirt with a different man, why hide and why talk about double standard, and then, going on to give a false restriction to husband.

Is that sound right?

A woman is not a "slut" just because she flirts. Nor is a man a whore monger just because he flirts. Flirtation in and of itself is not bad but it does raise flags if one is in a committed relationship, male or female. The double standard is wrong for either male or female. People sometimes are flirtatious without really realizing it. Your scenario sounds like it is from a couple who have not committed themselves to a relationship of exclusivity. I am not sure what you want to gain from this conversation - or what you believe is right or wrong?

I am just saying from what I feel in the past, that there are girls who pretend too much; pretending to be you know, like as if they will not go near males, but which is untrue.

And also, they twist my words, where in the start, they were flirting with me, but they say to others that I always chasing them, which is not true.

Sorry if I sound too harsh to females, and perhaps, not all females are like that.

But I just want to express what has been hidden, or what has been twisted, because when feminists talk about equality, they were asking men to respect women, but what about the reverse, should women respect men and not twisting words or pretending too much?

Two people imagining a world together. Whilst this one releases their heart. I guess.

Love falls into the fragile, yet flexible, structural system of morals, for it is a part of an imaginative aspect that can be utilized into something more real and objectively enhanced.

Love is as real as you want it to be.

An out of body experience that's trying to find it's way back again.