I was actually agreeing with your post. My comment was directed toward those who label others based on their shape, weight, appearance, and height (yes, size 6 may indicate a petite woman!) . My point is that NOT every slim (or skinny if you wish) woman has bulimia or anorexia, in fact, most don't. Variety includes ALL sizes indeed.Misty wrote:Hello Piros,Piros wrote: Right, Misty. "Sickly", "stick", "toothpick" etc. are labels. There are lots of healthy, naturally slim women out there with no eating disorders, that would take offense at the name-calling. I do belong to the size 6 group, always did, since high-school, I can eat whatever I want, as much as I want and I won't put on weight, Imagine that. It's really true. And there are millions like me in Europe where I was born and in Canada too, where I live. Yes, people, men and women, come in all shapes and sizes.
You are a very lucky woman! Could you send me a bottle of your metabolism?? Variety makes the world go round.
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You are demonstrating a common misunderstanding of evolution.MindlessPhil wrote:Threw evolution we see beauty as how healthy one is and if they can handle having a baby and so forth. Thus why male are attracted to breasts of women. Health would go with size as well, Very skinny women are seen as unhealthy and are not that attractive, only too those who were fed the idea maybe... But Instinctively I think we would go for the size 12 in the picture over the size 6.
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Also all these shapes, sizes etc is based on sexual attraction. We are biologically control by that drive for a while, then hopefully we learn and see how much we were manipulated by nothing more than hormones just so we will procreate. Honestly I am a bit pissed off by the way natural has used me. But I have learned from it, but still not enough to control this horrible injustice of what one things is perfect on the outside. UGH The Fools we Humans really are!
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So you prefer it like animals. The horse is not thinking whether she is a blonde, or a brunette, or black eyes or any of that. She is on heat and that is enough.Lizleslie wrote:Old post here, but trying to get my first 10 in so I can make a profile. I personally think this thread is a good way to show how we are programmed. And we allow ourselves to be programmed. Really who cares what someone looks like in a Bikini, when it comes down to it, it means nothing. What is important is our level of compassion and spiritual as well as intellectual growth.
Also all these shapes, sizes etc is based on sexual attraction. We are biologically control by that drive for a while, then hopefully we learn and see how much we were manipulated by nothing more than hormones just so we will procreate. Honestly I am a bit pissed off by the way natural has used me. But I have learned from it, but still not enough to control this horrible injustice of what one things is perfect on the outside. UGH The Fools we Humans really are!
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Is this so? I once worked in a farm, there were horses, pigs, chickens, cows, dogs and I never noticedLizleslie wrote:...And speaking of animals, often they will not mate with others that they don't like....
preferences. She is on heat, she is on heat. Actually when it came to horses, sometimes they made the mistake that she was on heat when she wasn't and she made sure they found out.I don't like
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Size 12 all the way. Slimmer than size 12 but much fuller than size 6 would probably be even more aesthetically eye pleasing. My view at least.Scott wrote:
What do you think?
Marylin Monroe would be considered fat by today's fashion model standards.
It's well know Black-American males and Latino males of varying hues like women with a so-called "little meat on their bones." Both are often times butt men too - contrasted to their North American peers that were largely breast men before the advent of Jennifer Lopez stardom. But even the majority of White-American men do not like anorexic looking women.
The deeper question is what is driving this skinny phenomenon in the fashion world which then influences the consumer world?
I don't think most want to find the real answer to that question. I don't suppose I know the answer with certainty myself. However, given the men in the behind the scenes fashion industry are disproportionately homosexual, I'm open to the very unPC possibility that these males ideas of sexy and beauty, correlated with the physiques of teenage boys or prepubescent boys as well, may be filtering down.
But it may not be that. That's a possibility as well.
I did hear some wear that clothing designers when they have fashion shows want their clothes to be the focal point of the run way and not the model. Ergo, a woman with tiny breasts and thin frame on who's body the clothing is draped.
But if in fact mostly women and homosexual males disproportionately dominate the running of the fashion industry then the blame lies to a far greater degree with the two than with your typical heterosexual male population. An impossible scenario for the male or female feminist I'll admit because their philosophy and political sympathies and goals at all times seeks to make the female the victim.
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I would contend, Misty, that competition within a species is a part of biological evolution. The sub-theory of sexual selection proposes that females enjoy a much greater advantage than males. This contradicts the normal beliefs of the general population. But then... the general population once militantly believed the sun revolved around the earth and the earth as the center of the universe.Misty wrote:Hi chazwyman,
If your read all the posts you will find woman/women have given opinions.
It does not matter what a woman looks like as there will be men that will degrade them. It is a way to make women feel insecure and needy leading to more effort to try to please the male. Of course, there are always exceptions so all males do not do this.
What the biological sciences has taught us is that it is very rare that a female will end up without a male mate (presuming she is not lesbian). But it is quite typical that a certain portion of males will end up with no female mate (presuming they are not homosexual) at all. By far the female is the greatest discriminator of the two sexes the science of biology has taught us.
Sexual selection tells us - if I can give my own analogy - that when it comes to the distribution of mates of the opposite sex that females are Switzerland (distribution of wealth) and males are Brazil (distribution of wealth). It's far more rare among females that one woman is married to 20 men. You'll find this phenomenon far more often among men. Osama Bin Laden for example was the 50th or so child of his father that had a large number of wives. Osama Bin Laden himself had many wives.
On the other hand... there are males that will live all their lives zero female mate. We see this clearly among Gorillas. The Silver-back has several female mates while other male Gorillas will never have one.
What qualifies as a "good mate" is often defined by superficial qualities. At least, in my opinion.
In my early 20's employed by the United States Marine Corps I was rejected (often not kindly) by 99.9% of women in the U.S. - but really I should limited that to the small population size of Black-American females because that's who I courted 95% - 99% of the time. I still had a big problem with acne then and the Navy would not prescribe me acutine in case I was deployed to war and antibiotics or something wouldn't work on me. Something like that. I was/am short too. I was smaller built male too. I was not as "gangster" as that which appealed to most black females of my generation either. This from women obese to women with skin diseases and 99% of the women I courted were poor and on welfare. Females are severe discriminators. More so than males. The silver-back Gorilla won't think so and neither will his relative equivalent among male Homo sapiens.
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Image of me maybe 10 or so years ago. Before I was shot multiple times (a year ago). I've lost some weight due to that and have to rebuild my size back.
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Who cares about what?Fleetfootphil wrote:Who cares?
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Crap....there was even some kind of way to vote in the original post. Sexism lives, even when it passes itself off as an opinion poll.
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In the United States, being slim has been sold as being 'attractive'.
In Somalia, being heavy is seen as being 'attractive' because it means the person is well fed. Practically everyone there is slim because they are starving.
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