Time: is time a concept or a physical force and can we prove the arrow of time

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Re: Time: is time a concept or a physical force and can we prove the arrow of time

Post by Frost » January 20th, 2018, 4:57 pm

The equations of fundamental physics are time-symmetric, so an essential question is, what breaks that symmetry? In the von Neumann Interpretation of the orthodox quantum formalism, von Neumann suggested that it is the non-physical experiential state of living organisms which actualize a particular quantum state, breaking the time symmetry. In this way, time is emergent as a result of experiential states, but certainly not an Intentionality-dependent phenomena (i.e., not idealism).

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Re: Time: is time a concept or a physical force and can we prove the arrow of time

Post by Namelesss » January 22nd, 2018, 2:50 am

ParadoxicalAlchemist wrote:
January 9th, 2018, 2:11 pm
Correct me if I am misunderstanding, but you are implying that time does not exist due to its measurement being "0", however a Plank second is not 0. A plank second has a physical unit of measurement equal to 5.39 × 10 −44 s, you cannot just average this down to zero because that is not it's definition.

I am not attempting to refute your whole argument here because I think there are some aspects of it that are interesting and deserve discourse, but I want clarification on whether you are implying time is 0 or not.
although is see an 'actual' temporal element in the mathematical representation of the Planck moment, it is, ultimately, of no duration to have duration.
It is as 'zero' as .9999... = 1! *__-
More so! (I don't have to ignore the pesky tangent to explain it)
The timeless Planck moment is not a measure of temporal extent, but a single unit of perception, a 'percept', the experience/Knowledge of the Here! Now!

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Re: Time: is time a concept or a physical force and can we prove the arrow of time

Post by Namelesss » January 22nd, 2018, 2:52 am

Sorry I didn't answer sooner, but as it was not quoted, or have my non-name, I just stumbled on it it now.

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