No, the Void is nothing. It the absence of space, time, matter or anything else you can imagine. It's not the anti-Universe. It's not empty space. It's not a vacuum. It's nothing.Newme wrote:Thanks for explaining.
If I understand you correctly, the void is essentially the space in which gives us an opportunity to exist, to think and act - for us is finite - but the void as applied universally is infinite. It's as if we're in a bubble - the void provides this space, maintaining subjectivity, even though there's plenty of other void influence besides our own experience of it. Within this bubble are all kinds of possibilities - all originating from mental focus.
With the Void (nothing) parallel to the Universe (something) it creates a 'tension' between them. It is the Universe that gives the Void its infinite potential.
The nothingness of the Void renders the concepts of independent and interdependent absolutely meaningless.Newme wrote:Do you think that our own void subjectivity is purely independent - or interdependent with others?
Are you referring to telekinesis?Newme wrote:I was reading: "The Unified Field — the zero point vacuum of spacetime — is infinite in its energy potential. Quantum physics tells us that every quantum particle has an infinite potential of possibilities as to when and where it will manifest (and only comes into local manifestation, or "collapses the probability field", when we put our attention on it — the consciousness/energy interplay). Quantum physics also theorizes that contained within every cubic centimeter (a mere small sugar cube in size) there is an approximate energy density/mass of 1094 grams (10 with 94 zeros following it). That's 39 orders-of-magnitude more mass/energy than the entire known Universe in every cubic centimeter! Suffice it to say, when you add up all the cubic centimeters that make up the entire known Universe the total amount of energy is of such an incomprehensible magnitude we might as well consider it infinite."
Considering this is a metaphysics subforum, I'm interested in your interpretation of the above and if you believe that we can influence and move energy through our minds and bodies.
I just had the following conversation about an idea concerning the Void in another topic:
We could try using the language of mathematics.UniversalAlien wrote:Spiral Out wrote:What other language could be used to ask philosophical questions ?The absurdity of the question of "why does existence exist" and the statement that "non-existence cannot exist" if found in the shortcomings of the language used to express these ideas..........
I could imagine a mind or minds somewhere in the universe that might be thinking differently than Humans
- but Humans would have a hard time understanding them - maybe quantum computers of the future will open the door
- Meantime, as you say, we are limited by language.
And maybe it is the very 'absurdity' of expecting logical answers to questions that are impossible to answer in an absolute sense, one of the things that makes philosophy interesting :idea:
The Universe could be expressed as a value of a number greater than 1 and the Void could be expressed as a value of 0. A classic binary existence and non-existence. It is fundamentally a binary state, for the most part anyway.Spiral Out wrote:The Universe ("existence") of course, does exist. It does so because an observer of this universe can form this very concept. We can also say the Void "exists" (for lack of a better word in a faulty and incomplete language) because an observer (obviously not direct observation) can form this concept as well.
However, we can think of existence in varying degrees or forms as concepts, processes, objects and the amalgam of these three states as entities.
Humans are entities comprised of concepts (mind), processes (thought) and objects (body). Perhaps concepts could be represented as a 0.15, processes as a 0.23 and objects as a 0.62 and entities as a 1.00. But any number greater than 0 would indicate existence.
Zero is a concept we can understand and accept. It represents a value of nothing; an absence of value. We can also consider the Void as such.