A Model for the Universe

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A Model for the Universe

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Normally we have a four- dimensional space- time model for the universe. Its problem is that the evidence points to the expansion of the universe which is absurd and inconceivable. But if we have a four- dimensional space and then the time- dimension, this problem does not arouse. The 4. dimension is the fact that the universe has no outside but everything belongs to it. This happens with the 4. space- dimension. And the space rationally is like that in the reality. The 4. dimension is not the time but this fact.

The time we can take as a 5. dimension or in some other way.

This ball- like universe has a definite radius (r), which value we don't know. It is at least 13.8 billion light years, but probably still bigger.

Is there anybody who can transform the GR equations to this model and look if the evidence (red shift and others) fit with this kind of model?

The advantage of this model is that the universe can be eternal and infinite (in the sense no limit, edge or border, but everything inside it, no outside) as rationally expected. The space of the whole universe has no time, only the particles in it have time and the universe is eternal.

And there can be stars older than 13.8 billion years. Because the universe is eternal.

This is philosophically sound, is it? How it is with astronomical cosmologists?

-- Updated March 3rd, 2017, 6:52 am to add the following --

In some astronomical forums it was very difficult to discuss this, because they had strict rules. I'm very happy to discuss the matter here. My education is in the philosophy, in astronomy I am not qualified as a scientists. In the psychology I am a scientist, an academic scholar.

The new point here is that the space of the whole universe has no time even when it is 4. dimensional. Time comes as a 5. dimension or some other way. So the critic for static universes in the history does not have point here. And we don't have need for any creation of the matter as in the Hoyle's model or the expansion of the space as in the BBT, and the evidence can be explained. But there I don't have the needed competence.
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Re: A Model for the Universe

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Hello Sandis36. I notice you have had no responses to this post. I too have had no comments posted to my post - "A Paradoxical Universe?".

You identify yourself as having "education … in the philosophy" and that "In the psychology I am a scientist, an academic scholar". I have a limited education in Philosophy and an undergraduate degree in Psychology.

You use terminology with which I am not familiar - although a brief online search of "4." gave me some appreciation of the mathematical concepts involved. Consequently I cannot adequately enter into the more intricate implications of the field, nor, therefore, make comment on the correctness of your assertions. Nonetheless I am moved to observe that it appears to me that words like "dimension" and "space" are used in a particular way that leaves them open to misinterpretation in the context of experiential perception. It seems to me that mathematically there are no limits to the number of 'dimensions' - and their associated 'spaces'. Ultimately they represent iterations of mathematical algorithms over whatever axiomatic bases can be generated inductively. My initial response is that this ought, in principal to be limitless. Nonetheless I think it likely there are limits to the existentially realisable manifestations that are possible … BUT, I do not know, and cannot point to anyone who does.

One proposition I would raise is that, there should be careful distinction made between the search for (i.e. love of) understanding - which I call "Philantilipsy", and the search for (i.e. love of) 'good'/'wisdom' - which is called Philosophy. Philantilipsy is predicated on ontology and epistemology, while I suggest Philosophy is entirely determined by axiology.
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Re: A Model for the Universe

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Sandis36 wrote:And there can be stars older than 13.8 billion years. Because the universe is eternal.

This is philosophically sound, is it? How it is with astronomical cosmologists?

The new point here is that the space of the whole universe has no time even when it is 4. dimensional. Time comes as a 5. dimension or some other way. So the critic for static universes in the history does not have point here. And we don't have need for any creation of the matter as in the Hoyle's model or the expansion of the space as in the BBT, and the evidence can be explained. But there I don't have the needed competence.
IMO, the posit of 4D space is philosophically sound.

Check this out: Existence of Higher dimensional space & Perception of time
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Fun stuff. However, the universe is posited to be flat and not round. To be fair, this assumption is based on measurements that assume that the universe is not vastly larger than we imagined (in which a positively curved surface could appear to be flat). Also, your assumption seems to preclude the possibility of a multiverse, which is fair enough in a sense, but I thought I'd just mention it for completionism's sake. It remains a possibility, even if speculative. It would require more dimensions again.

If you wish to bend your brain with higher dimensions I recommend Rob Bryanton's YouTube Imagining the 10th Dimension video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o#t=100.22712
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