Does not synthetic a priori truths turn analytic over time?

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Does not synthetic a priori truths turn analytic over time?

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Hi,

As I have understood it, in Kant synthetic a priori judgment add new knowledge - not based on our senses - to our concept of for example a triangle (for example that the interior angels of a triangle will sum to 180). My questions is now, would not that new knowledge eventually "just" add to the definition of the concept of a triangle that it's interior angels sum to 180 and thereby in the future be a analytical a priori truth? Maybe what I am asking is, does Kant takes notices of how definitions of concepts evolve over time because our language evolve over time, in that our knowledge of what is contained in those concepts evolves over time?

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I would alter the definition of Priori Knowledge slightly.

Priori Knowledge is not the knowledge Reality itself; Priori Knowledge are the thoughts that make reference to Realties that have yet to be experienced, not the knowledge or Realties that can not be experienced; Sacred, Hidden. Secret, the knowledge of Realties that are forbidden to speak about because of fear, in reference to unnecessary suffering that the deception of said Knowledge will cause Unnecessary Suffering, the fear of the creation of Evil, an Abomination, Duplicity, Guilefulness, Lies, Great Suffering, the result being for Evil to raise its ugly head, thoughts, as thought it were the Knowledge of Reality itself.

Priori; The ability to give thought to the Knowledge of Reality Yet to exist without causing unnecessary suffering, is called Wisdom.

Wisdom being a tool a helpmate, created to be mankind’s helpmate.

Prior Knowledge is not the knowledge of Reality itself, is an aid, a helpmate, Wisdom, forethought created to assist Mankind in his Search for Universal Truth and Justice.
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MrDoom wrote:My questions is now, would not that new knowledge eventually "just" add to the definition of the concept of a triangle that it's interior angels sum to 180 and thereby in the future be a analytical a priori truth?
It is a a priori truth, not just part of the definition. I say this because not all definitions of an triangle (three line segments intersecting each other at their respective end points) are useful for further proofs. But the fact the three angles add up to half an circular angle IS very useful in unrelated proofs.

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Wayne92587 wrote:I would alter the definition of Priori Knowledge slightly.

Priori Knowledge is not the knowledge Reality itself; Priori Knowledge are the thoughts that make reference to Realties that have yet to be experienced, not the knowledge or Realties that can not be experienced; Sacred, Hidden. Secret, the knowledge of Realties that are forbidden to speak about because of fear, in reference to unnecessary suffering that the deception of said Knowledge will cause Unnecessary Suffering, the fear of the creation of Evil, an Abomination, Duplicity, Guilefulness, Lies, Great Suffering, the result being for Evil to raise its ugly head, thoughts, as thought it were the Knowledge of Reality itself.

Priori; The ability to give thought to the Knowledge of Reality Yet to exist without causing unnecessary suffering, is called Wisdom.

Wisdom being a tool a helpmate, created to be mankind’s helpmate.

Prior Knowledge is not the knowledge of Reality itself, is an aid, a helpmate, Wisdom, forethought created to assist Mankind in his Search for Universal Truth and Justice.
I can 'ear the Shakespeare's-time pronunciation in your text. :-)
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Is that good or bad.
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I can 'ear the Shakespeare's-time pronunciation in your text. :-)
Iambic pentameter? The lines look too long to me.
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True the lines are long but by not breaking them and attempting to use proper grammar, I am able to say a lot in a smaller amount of space than if the sentences where shorter.

Wisdom is the ability to play around with prior, sacred, hidden, secret, personal Knowledge, forbidden, thoughts without you yourself becoming Guileful, a blithering idiot, without thinking that you are God Like, all Knowing, becoming a Know-it-all.
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All knowing becoming a know-it-all is similar to honing one's wisdom of judgment to such high degree of refinement, that he becomes non-judgmental.

Similar to "let's fight for peace" and to "a specialist knows more and more about less and less, until he knows everything about nothing; and a generalist knows less and less about more and more, until he knows nothing about everything.

Or similar to my friend Paul Spenser's discovery, that there is more or less names like Morley and Lesley, and a Hungarian first name "Andor" (And/Or). Nothing got past that guy.

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Wayne92587 wrote:Is that good or bad.
As LuckyR always says: it depends. Not good when there is a sudden giant fire developing in the shop or auditorium. Good when you are nicely tucked in, and mommy just takes from you the emply glass which was minutes ago full of hot cocoa.
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The main tenet of an ancient religion is "don't eat beans"

Meaning that a know-it-all is full of hot air, is gaseous.

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I shorten my lines by breaking them up with punctuation.

Many times a thought would be lost if they ended at some arbitrary point.

I would have to write ten times as many short lines to say the same thing that I say in one my longer lines.
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The many lines only appear to take up more room broken up than if they were written into one huge honking line.

If your average sentence length was say, fifty characters, (it's not much, only ten words), then breaking up the text into paragraphs by sentences would add only a four-percent addition in length. (Two carriage returns are two characters; two characters by fifty characters is four percent.)

I don't think that economy of space is sacrificed by a four-percent increase if the benefit you get for it is much easier reading in the end product.
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Your post has given me thought as to why I hesitate to end a sentence, which had never given much thought to before

My sentence has only one thought, however I choose to use more than one word to express my thought.

The subject matter of one of my sentences would loose meaning if I broke it up into multiple single sentences; a Single sentence that reads "see dick run" would be a complete sentence, but leaves a sentence, would leave my thought, with little meaning.

My words are a paragraph in the form of a sentence which is why I believe that I can say more in a single sentence than what some would be able to say if they wrote a book.

My thoughts as I write them down use many words, subjects, to express a single thought.

IF I am using punctuation marks incorrectly I appreciate a correction.

What good are punctuation marks if I can not use them.

You will have to show me where my grammar is not proper.
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