Is this an epistemic paradox?
- Danzr
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Is this an epistemic paradox?
Case 1: One has the capacity to attain salvation: In this case, altruistic conduct is not helpful since it removes suffering. It impedes the attainment of salvation (by removing suffering).
Case 2: One does not have the capacity to attain salvation: in this case, altruistic conduct is helpful (the removal of suffering will not hinder the individual since the individual will not reach salvation).
Does it then follow that this is an epistemic paradox?: how does an altruistic person know that the
person one “helps” via altruistic conduct action is not thereby being hindered with respect to their path to salvation?
- Albert Tatlock
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Re: Is this an epistemic paradox?
I would be willing to wear a badge stating that I have no capacity to attain salvation if it means I get treated better.Danzr wrote:Altruistic conduct can be helpful or harmful for an individual depending on whether an individual has the capacity to attain a Buddhist-type salvation (through renouncing the will to life). Personal suffering is a necessary requisite for salvation (for those who have the capacity to attain salvation).
Case 1: One has the capacity to attain salvation: In this case, altruistic conduct is not helpful since it removes suffering. It impedes the attainment of salvation (by removing suffering).
Case 2: One does not have the capacity to attain salvation: in this case, altruistic conduct is helpful (the removal of suffering will not hinder the individual since the individual will not reach salvation).
Does it then follow that this is an epistemic paradox?: how does an altruistic person know that the
person one “helps” via altruistic conduct action is not thereby being hindered with respect to their path to salvation?
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Re: Is this an epistemic paradox?
Danzr wrote:Personal suffering is a necessary requisite for salvation (for those who have the capacity to attain salvation).
Your mistake is highlighted in red.
Personal suffering, in general, is not what is required for salvation. It's more particular than that. It's not just any suffering that leads to salvation, but rather only certain kinds of suffering. And in general, voluntary suffering gives better results than involuntary suffering.
Not to mention that, if you are a student of Eastern doctrine, you should also know that one of the requisites of salvation is to be free of thought. A man should just help, or not help, without deliberating about it. And this is actually far more important than whether or not actual help was given or not.
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Who the hell does he think he is?Gary_M_Washburn wrote:Kierkegaard demands we be one thing.
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