RJG wrote:Although we are conscious of (recognize) the sensory input, there is no consciousness of the actual brain activity (neural activity) that cause things to happen outside the brain, such as moving a leg.
In these feedback loops, what is it (specifically) that you are actually conscious of? …isn’t it just the sensory impressions (experiences) of something that has already happened?Steve3007 wrote:Well, I've talked about feedback loops. Couldn't there be relatively short feedback loops within the brain? I guess the longest feedback loop is one which involves sensing things outside our brain and body.
RJG wrote:We don’t know (are not conscious) that we moved our leg until after the ‘proprioception’ sensory input is received and recognized.
And if we (our bodies) did fire a motor neuron… then we wouldn’t “know” (be conscious of) it until after we experienced a sensory indication of such. Otherwise, we have no way of “knowing” this.Steve3007 wrote:But if we fired a motor neuron…
The firing neuron occurs before the ‘knowing’-of-the-firing-neuron. X occurs before the ‘knowing’-of-X.
No. Firstly, it is not possible to consciously fire a motor neuron. Secondly, we can’t “know” we attempted leg movement prior to the sensation of attempting leg movement; prior to the proprioception sensory experience of muscle movement. Otherwise, there is nothing there to tell us anything. There is nothing there yet, to know.Steve3007 wrote:But if we fired a motor neuron, we know that we attempted to move our leg, don’t we?