How do I prove my existence?
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How do I prove my existence?
To exist is to have properties
To perceive is a property
I perceive therefore I exist
Are there problems with this?
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Why can't it be the case? All you can know for sure is that you can think, which is about as intrinsic as you can get.Maxcady10001 wrote: ↑January 26th, 2018, 8:36 pm To say I exist intrinsically is to say only I exist, which cannot be the case
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For all you know, the thing you call you may consist solely of thought. How can you be sure that your body and the world around you are not just intrinsic constructions within your thoughts? Actually, it is I who should be asking myself this question, you and your post could well be a mere invention of my thoughts.Maxcady10001 wrote: ↑January 27th, 2018, 10:02 am I only know I can think because my thoughts are of the world around me,
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Thats why I asked if there were any problems with:
To exist is to have properties
To perceive is a property
I perceive therefore I must exist
Here, even if someone were to say I perceive falsely, I am still perceiving, so I exist. I could not think of any problems, so I posted it here.
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Not necessarily, I could be imagining you.
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Okay, if you are convinced that you exist, who am I to argue?Maxcady10001 wrote: ↑January 27th, 2018, 11:06 am I believe I've proved my existence to me, and in proving my existence, i've proved my relation to the world around me, so i've proved my existence to you.
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Whatever exists has properties
The universe has properties
The universe exists
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Whatever exists has properties
We have properties
Therefore we must exist
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Nothing is the absence of existence
For existence to be absent is for absence to exist
Absence exists therefore something exists
Does that one make any sense?
I believe if you substitute yourself for I, in the first one of these I made, you prove your existence and the existence of the relationship between you and the world. Because if you perceive, you exist because you possess a property, and what you perceive exists because your perception of it exists and even if you perceive falsely, you still perceive, so you still possess properties.
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