- The definition of eternity has no temporal beginningConsul wrote: ↑September 24th, 2018, 8:17 pmIt's a mistake to suppose that the rejection of infinite/transfinite numbers entails the rejection of infinite/transfinite multitudes or pluralities or collectives of numbers or other kinds of things. For you can consistently reject the Aleph numbers as pseudo-numbers—and literally call infinite sets numberless—and affirm that there are infinitely/transfinitely many natural numbers. Then, to do so is not to say that there are infinitely many natural numbers because the cardinality of their set is the transfinite number Aleph-0, but that there are infinitely many of them because for any finite subset Sn of them there is a larger finite subset Sn+1 of them.
Your description implies that God's counting has no temporal beginning: There is no time in the past when God began to count (with "to count" defined as "to recite numbers in ascending order, usually starting at the number one" [Oxford Dictionary]). But if God never began or started to count, he never counts; and if he never counts, I cannot ever meet him and hear him counting, which contradicts your description, such that it is a nonstarter (as an argument against actual infinities) due to the incoherence of the concept of a beginningless counting.devans99 wrote: ↑September 24th, 2018, 6:03 pmThe problem I have with an eternal universe is it leads to logical contradictions. Here is just one for example:
- Say you meet an Eternal god in your Eternal universe
- and you notice he is counting.
- You ask and he says ‘I’ve always been counting’.
- What number is he on?
- it defines something without a start
- nothing can exist without a start
- eternity does not exist