Brain workings and freedom

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Eduk
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Re: Brain workings and freedom

Post by Eduk » May 29th, 2018, 6:30 am

I would guess that the number one problem which most effects patient outcome is the patients. For example in the UK the government sought to cut down waiting lists for seeing a GP. The upshot of this is that you will not be put on a waiting list if the list is too long.

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Re: Brain workings and freedom

Post by chewybrian » May 29th, 2018, 6:47 am

Eduk wrote:
May 28th, 2018, 6:46 am
Not sure it's fair to lump all attitude under placebo effect though?
I don't think so, but you might consider placebo effect a sub-set of the power of attitude. In this case, attitude is positive, information is bad, and outcome is good. You can see other permutations where aspects and outcomes are different. Negative attitude can surely lead to negative outcomes in many cases. But, I'm very fond of the stoic outlook where it goes the other way.

If you head out with the expectation of being cut off in traffic, then road rage is no longer a realistic response. In this case, attitude is negative, information is good, and the outcome is neutral. You already accepted the cutting off as part of the price you choose to pay for the benefit of travelling. So, a negative attitude can block off negative outcomes, which is a good thing, even if the end result might look like a zero. The full effect is hardly zero. Blocking off negative outcomes can free your mind to work out the good stuff in other ways, and it tilts the scales toward the positive.

There is no placebo effect in traffic. Say attitude is positive (expecting everyone else to follow the rules of the road), and information is bad (experience should tell you people often do not follow the rules). Then the outcome is bad this time. You are surprised, and sense injustice in being cut off, and road rage is back on the table.

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Re: Brain workings and freedom

Post by kordofany » May 31st, 2018, 4:38 am

This video may give us hypotheses to answer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... qMJD3nozxI

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