Ontology precedes epistemology

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ReasonMadeFlesh
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Ontology precedes epistemology

Post by ReasonMadeFlesh » June 6th, 2018, 11:40 am

Being comes before knowledge.

Knowledge is a type of being requiring a subject-object relationship.

When you truly know something, you feel it with all your being such that you, the subject, are becoming one with the object of your knowledge.

All that is real is the subjects evolving state of mind through space and time, in this great universe which hangs together interdependently, as a universal mind
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Re: Ontology precedes epistemology

Post by mr533473 » July 1st, 2018, 10:32 am

Who's being? Who's knowledge? If you were alive prior to 1991 and knew anything then your knowledge preceded my being..

So knowledge is a "type of being"? I take it when you initially say that "being comes before knowledge" you mean that some being come before knowledge which also a type of being. Could this be simplified to some being come before other being?

The third bit sounds like you're confusing knowledge with belief.

The last bit there might be why after 150 views this has not received any response. I don't mean to be dismissive but you make a few claims that don't work as premises and conclusion (not sure if that's how they are intended) and are really hard to respond to. As you see, I started to give it a shot but so much of it is questionable. I feel that's why it hasn't been engaged with.

It seems alien to me so I'm curious to hear you flesh out these ideas. If you're willing to, could you define the terms and expand on it some more?

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Re: Ontology precedes epistemology

Post by A_Seagull » July 2nd, 2018, 1:35 am

ReasonMadeFlesh wrote:
June 6th, 2018, 11:40 am
Being comes before knowledge.

Knowledge is a type of being requiring a subject-object relationship.

When you truly know something, you feel it with all your being such that you, the subject, are becoming one with the object of your knowledge.

All that is real is the subjects evolving state of mind through space and time, in this great universe which hangs together interdependently, as a universal mind
It seems to me that you are just playing with words like a child with wooden blocks and trying to put them together in a pretty configuration.
Being
knowledge
Truly
Space
Becoming one
Real
Interdependently
Universal
Mind
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