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It's fun to think about "did the tree fall?".. I like that as the best explanation...
Kapra wrote:The only point I am making is that the sentence isn`t one that can be answered simply. I would need to read the entire reason for the questioner asking it. Who is the questioner? If this was a question of the tree falling in a forest in a sci fi novel, the tree and forest could be in outer space, which means they fall and float, without sound. If this question was asked by an international spy it could be a code and not literally mean what is being asking. If no one IS around then no one would hear it make a sound.
I think that if this is to be only a science question its not a philosophy question if it only means what science means by it.It's fun to think about "did the tree fall?".. I like that as the best explanation...
Haha good analogy. It isn`t saying the tree did fall, its asking IF
I highly doubt that this is a question meant to be taken literally.
Mark wrote:a fact (action/sound/whatever) is still there (or has been there), even if it cannot be "proved". The fact in itself doesn't need to be proved, to exist.
Of course it does.
If a human being dies, and no one has ever heard of him, his deeds, or anything relating to him. Did his life have meaning?
so I think that TFindlay would have to agree with me to some extent. I'd go further though and say that vibrating air is a meaning and therefore presupposes consciousness.A sound is, by definition, something that is heard. Vibrating air that is not heard is simply vibrating air. So if there is no one there to hear the vibrations in the air made by the tree falling it does not make a sound, it only causes the air to vibrate.
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