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Josefina1110 wrote:Here are a couple of concepts. 1. God is merciful and mighty and he knows that we are but made of dust. All He wants of us is to believe that He exists and follow Him in good faith. 2. If you don't believe Him and ignore that He exists, He is also a God of wrath. He can do anything to us because He created us. But it is not Him that really do the testing of our faith. He will turn us over to the adversary. He created Lucifer the angel of light who turned out to try to overthrow Him so Satan was the overthrown Lucifer who tempts us not to obey God. But God knows Satan's limitations. He cannot do anything to us more than we can bear. But we need to repent and ask forgiveness for our disobedience if we acknowledge Him in our lives. He said that He has plans for us. He said that we are fearfully and wonderfully made for His pleasure. But when man fell his goal was delayed. God will reign in the end to his people who will not die. Unbelievers are what they are because it is fun to have nobody to be responsible for. But fun is temporary, especially in this fallen world. Only our belief promises us an everlasting life and happiness. This is what is difficult as a believer. "If you love me, take up your cross and follow me." A true believer follows a narrow path. That is the reason many don't want to go there. It would be very easy to ignore God because man follows the path of least resistance. You can't go to heaven just by being good. Jesus died for our sins. But, we first have to believe and then follow Him for our good and the Holy Spirit will guide us to do good because we are not perfect. " . . . Though your sins be scarlet, it shall be as white as snow."
So, no, unless the atheist accepts the existence of God no amount of science or philosphy will bend his will. The Bible,, science and philosphy only make sense when we know God.
Eduk wrote:So, no, unless the atheist accepts the existence of God no amount of science or philosphy will bend his will. The Bible,, science and philosphy only make sense when we know God.
I salute you also for ignoring the scientific method and all it's successes and methodologies.
I found nothing at all that would convince an open minded atheist and plenty that even believers in the Bible would not accept. The chapter opens with the questionable claim that the greatest controversy about the Genesis creation story is that the world was made in six literal days. Certainly an open minded atheist would not consider this the greatest controversy. The greatest controversy is that God created the world. Whether it occurred in six days or six minutes or six million years is not at the top of the scale of controversies.
Calling the fossil record question is not going to persuade anyone with a rudimentary understanding of geology. Her account is clumsy, misguided, and uninformed. Her claim that the Big Bang did not occur because God is a God of order is so obviously question begging that it begs us to ask why we should take this book seriously. She claims that we are able to see distance stars not only because of the speed of light but because of their “incomprehensible size”. She goes on to say that they had to be placed at that distance because otherwise life would have perished from their heat and violent activities.
By this point her biggest concern should be persuading us not to laugh.
(Would be nice if an atheist/rejectionist could come up with a purpose to know our world)
I would contend that the paleontologic record is debatable, as well as the "Big Bang". There are numerous secular sources which do just that. Consider, experiments conducted today showing the speed of light may be decreasing!
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