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Whisper Wizard wrote:Morality and ethics takes more than one person as they are the bounds of selfish and selfless acts.
Whisper Wizard wrote:One can not do good or bad to themselves unless they personify something like a person. For example, if they drink for a whole week and feel terrible, they think they are doing "bad" for their body. It's their rational moral opinion after taking a step out of their awareness and witnessing themselves technically making two people for the scenario in a sense.
On lies, we tell white lies for the better for others in our minds while we tell harsher lies for personal gain.
This kind of person is existent because they believe in special privileges for themselves.
Haicoway wrote:First, I ask TSBU if he ever tells any white lies out of convenience, such as not having to talk to a salesman who calls: “Tell him I’m not home,” etcetera. If he says he never lies at any level (and I’ll take him at his word), he will be the first such person other than my wife I have ever met or known about.
So for no reason other than we had just been immersed in the idea of authenticity, we made a commitment never to lie again, and that included telling white lies for convenience. It’s been over thirty years and we haven’t lied. On a few occasions when I out of sloppiness or by exaggeration told a lie, I either on the spot, or by going back, cleaned it up.
People say it can be unkind not to lie, as when a person asks you if you think her god-awful dress is nice. You can learn how to tell the truth tactfully.
As I said, we didn’t make the commitment for any reason(s), but reasons abound after the fact, if one wants them. You can’t have extramarital affairs if you don’t lie, and you can’t even eat French Fries with your lunch, if your spouse asks you what you had, like mine does. Therefore I am healthier than I would be if I lied.
Haicoway wrote:Wow, thanks, TSBU. Well, I guess I do lie. I likewise click the “I have read” links, when I haven’t, and hope that I haven’t signed my house away. And there are a ton of things I lie about by omission. I know people think I think differently about many issues than I do. I have many libertine views, for example. I thought that other people did, too, but were just inhibited and couldn’t admit such thoughts to others or even to themselves. But people have tried hard to convince me that I am perverted and that most other people don’t have those thoughts. And, yes, I know that people can have extramarital affairs honestly, as in open marriage. So, thanks to you, I am going to qualify my boasts about telling the truth going forward.
Honesty in general does work well, though. Like your example with the salesman. I likewise take every call and just tell the person, like you do, in about five seconds, that I’m not going to talk about reverse mortgages, or give to the Policeman’s Association, or cancer fund, or what-have-you, rather than have to scroll through voice messages.
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