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Luxin
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Re: Killing Hitler?

Post by Luxin » September 6th, 2018, 9:50 pm

Dear philosopher LuckyR,
LuckyR wrote:
September 2nd, 2018, 2:40 am
Luxin wrote:
September 1st, 2018, 5:12 pm
Dear philosopher mr533473 et al,

I only wish to comment on item 2). I would not, because for me there would be repercussions. "Let he who is free of sin cast the first stone" (Christ).
Do you feel this phrase applies to literal stones or figurative ones?
I've always sensed that Christ's words were figurative. His 'Judge not lest ye be judged' has the same thrust as 'Let he who is free of sin cast the first stone', i.e. perhaps giving one pause regarding our race's general tendency to judge incautiously. A 'judgment' in this context is 'an opinion, estimation, action or conclusion as from circumstances presented to the mind'. Since all the four things there are subjective, how can anyone be certain that one's judgment is correct? An incorrect judgment issued has serious and often mysterious negative karmic consequences. Wardens and other prison staff have suffered seriously after it was discovered that an innocent person was executed. This significant suffering is prevented by following the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill'.

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Dear philosopher Hereandnow,
Hereandnow wrote:
August 18th, 2018, 1:37 am
The better question is, does Hitler deserve the bad rap at all? After all, he did not ask to be a conscienceless psycho. He did not ask to feel no emotions as he slaughtered the innocent. If i were Hitler, I would have done the same (that's what it means to be Hitler). He was, as we all are, thrown into the world, thrown into a personality and its motivations. How is he at all to blame? Just as soon blame him for his sexual preference, or his aversion to goat cheese.
I admire that determinist view, thank you. Yes, no one asks to be wicked. The 'bad' were all once innocent little babies, as were the 'good'.

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Re: Killing Hitler?

Post by LuckyR » September 9th, 2018, 3:58 am

Luxin wrote:
September 6th, 2018, 9:50 pm
Dear philosopher LuckyR,
LuckyR wrote:
September 2nd, 2018, 2:40 am


Do you feel this phrase applies to literal stones or figurative ones?
I've always sensed that Christ's words were figurative. His 'Judge not lest ye be judged' has the same thrust as 'Let he who is free of sin cast the first stone', i.e. perhaps giving one pause regarding our race's general tendency to judge incautiously. A 'judgment' in this context is 'an opinion, estimation, action or conclusion as from circumstances presented to the mind'. Since all the four things there are subjective, how can anyone be certain that one's judgment is correct? An incorrect judgment issued has serious and often mysterious negative karmic consequences. Wardens and other prison staff have suffered seriously after it was discovered that an innocent person was executed. This significant suffering is prevented by following the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill'.
Glad to hear it, I agree. Though no one "judges not", to be honest. But I don't see that as a shortcoming. Only a simpleton does not "judge".
"As usual... it depends."

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