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cynicallyinsane wrote:A man stealing to feed himself is immoral, because stealing is immoral.
philoreaderguy wrote:What makes an action immoral?
How do we know if a certain choice, action, or behavior is immoral?
philoreaderguy wrote:What makes an action immoral? How do we know if a certain choice, action, or behavior is immoral?
Patrarch wrote:First I think it needs to be proven that morality exists. I.E. disprove moral nihilism and show that there is more to morality than
"i like x"
"i feel you should do x"
"i desire the results of x"
"x promotes y"
"x is bad"
and other related statements.
Scott is a moral nihilist. Prove him wrong, and show that morality even exists before we debate what decides moral versus immoral.
Scott wrote:Yes, we must agree on what it means for something to be 'morally good' or 'immoral' before we can sensibly discuss whether or not a particular action or person is 'moral' or 'immoral.'
People can mean many different things when they make a moral claim. When one elaborates and specifies what they mean, and when people agree on a definition of morality, I believe we are left with an amoral claim, such as I like X, or X is unhealthy, etc.
Akui wrote:.. Somewhere along the path of evolution, Homo Sapiens have picked up the habit of seeing completely natrual actions and labiling them as "evil" or "wrong." Smething only becomes immoral when people lable it as such. like the Tao says; "When people see some things as good, other things become bad." Morality does not exist in nature. Why should in in humanity?
Akui wrote:Hi, ape.
My "Code," as you put it, would be more like, "When people see some things as good, then they see everything that is not good as bad."
Ape: But how cd any thing be bad or be seen as bad if all is good?
There is a way or code that does it, but what do you say is the way or code as you see it?
What I'm trying to say, is that beyond the existance of the perspective of humanity, there is no "good" or "evil." Survival of the self and of the species is the only Code that applies to all, be they human or otherwise.
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