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Cloning.

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Is it an ethical practice?
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It could be. This is pretty vague, you might want to be more specific.
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It depends. I think you should explain your question further.
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it is not cloning which can or cannot be ethical but what is done with the clones. Cloning would be unethical if the clones are used for organ transplant, but it would be ethical if people see the clones as equals and let them grow up in peace.
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I don't think in terms of morality. Nonetheless, like most forms of technology, the power cloning is very dangerous in the hands of men. We can be feeble, shortsighted creatures. Often using available power to get personal gain, no matter what damage it does to the environment, society, and humanity.
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Lao Tzu wrote:it is not cloning which can or cannot be ethical but what is done with the clones. Cloning would be unethical if the clones are used for organ transplant, but it would be ethical if people see the clones as equals and let them grow up in peace.
basically my view, i'd just worry about cloning in government agencies, rebel groups, it just scares me, the possibility
i mean the conditioning people go through now is nauseating, i'd hate to see what people could do to clones
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synapticattack wrote:
Lao Tzu wrote:it is not cloning which can or cannot be ethical but what is done with the clones. Cloning would be unethical if the clones are used for organ transplant, but it would be ethical if people see the clones as equals and let them grow up in peace.
basically my view, i'd just worry about cloning in government agencies, rebel groups, it just scares me, the possibility
i mean the conditioning people go through now is nauseating, i'd hate to see what people could do to clones
This might sound funny, but that makes me think of the clone army in Star Wars.
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Scott wrote:that makes me think of the clone army in Star Wars.
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no becasue when a living organism is cloned, the material cells are repulated, but the soul is not, the new organism will be brn without a psyche if you have ver seen the picture of the cloned sheep Dolly you will notice a distinct bland deadness in her eyes, she is a drone not a "living" creature except in the biological sense.


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synapticattack wrote:
Scott wrote:that makes me think of the clone army in Star Wars.
it happens
Sorry Scott but I agree with this guy remeber what Napolean did to the puppies in Animal Farm? He raised them outside of society in an elite environment and trained them to kill all members of society who didnt yield to Napolean himself
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It is ethical. The act of cloning is only making another animal, so effectively, there is nothing wrong with it. It is often seen as immoral as it is seen as playing God, although playing God in and of itself has not been deemed immoral. It is solely exercising power over animals to show our scientific supremacy.

-- Updated March 23rd, 2017, 2:21 pm to add the following --
anarchyisbliss wrote:no becasue when a living organism is cloned, the material cells are repulated, but the soul is not, the new organism will be brn without a psyche if you have ver seen the picture of the cloned sheep Dolly you will notice a distinct bland deadness in her eyes, she is a drone not a "living" creature except in the biological sense.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/4137 ... _pa220.jpg

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The problem with this argument is that there is no soul. There is no scientific evidence for a soul. We have no suitable evidence to believe is a soul, aside from the fact that we are alive, which, in and of itself can be opposed. By me :twisted: . There is no evidence for us having a soul, although there is evidence which is heavily supported is that we are an animal with specific functions. We are not alive, but are a robot with specific functions, and Dolly's dullness in her eye is just a function of her. She is an animal, I am an animal and I not alive whatsoever. I am conditioned to be limited to making these posts in this way as I have no other choice from my conditioning and development. It will have the psyche of just another animal. The only sense in which something can be alive is to move, be reactive to the extent of a self aware mesh of muscle's liking (Like our liking). This is because we are the only objects yet to classify things.
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