I understand it is difficult and no one has done a thorough exercise to assess the current state of the pros and cons of theism. So what is going on is, SOME theists are hiding under this umbrella of difficulty to commit their very terrible evil acts to satisfy their lusts for paradise and virgins.Count Lucanor wrote:I'm looking for some objective ground, if there's any in this case. Facing similar situations, people can convince themselves of many different things, even having opposite views. For example, one may see the idea that theism comforts people in distress as positive, while others will see it as a negative outcome. So, the picture of how the weights of pros and cons are distributed looks fuzzy righy now and the configurations seem endless. It may be possible to say only which particular configuration one wants to subscribe to, you know, just to compare notes, but it will hardly provide a common ground to reach a conclusion.Spectrum wrote:
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For anyone who can convince themselves and others of any pros [positive] associated with theism.
Note there are many politicians who exploit the pros of religion for their selfish political interests. Note the listing I have provided above.
One discovery I noted is, a problem may seem difficult or even insurmountable but if we dare to venture, and after many drafts we will begin to see some light in it.
Thus to begin we have to lists "all" the pros claimed by theists and "all" the cons and evils of theism.
The most common pro assigned to theism is a ground for morality.
I believe the most critical pros with the heaviest weightage is the psychological benefits from theism but normally theists do not even think or understood this benefit to them.
The cons of theism is very obvious;
Here is one readily available stats re violence with deaths;
32,093 deadly attacks since 911.
Others lesser evil acts from theists can be collected from News reports on a daily basis.
In addition I have speculated based on the inherent evils elements in the Quran, there is a potential threat to the extermination of the human species with a greater probability than from secular politics.
From Christianity, there is a hindrance to progress where Christian prefer to study creationism rather than evolutionary theories.
I believe when we put all these pros and cons onto 'paper' and keep reviewing it for improvement we can get somewhere and my "hunch" is the cons of theism are outweighing its pros at present and will be in the future.
This will be a basis for a serious consideration to replace theism [in the future and voluntarily] with non-theistic approaches that are benign to deal with the same inherent unavoidable existential crisis.