Londoner wrote: ↑
February 14th, 2018, 5:30 am
So how is it that Muslims do not all agree with each other? Why are there different branches of Islam?
But, to cut this short, we know that you will deploy the 'no true Scotsman' argument and say that Muslims who do not conform to your stereotype are not true Muslims, and then we will back back to those interminable cut-and-paste posts.
Don't you ever get the urge to write about something different? Just for variety?
There are three main sects of Islam, i.e. Sunni, Shia and Khawarij.
Within each sect there are many schools.
The presence of many sects and each with many schools do not imply there are reformations of Islam.
While there may be difference in the interpretation of some verses, all the accepted doctrines of these sects and schools do not reform the central ethos of the Quran, especially their hatred for non-believers.
What is often touted as reformation and reformers are actually Muslim[s] who insist Islam is a religion of peace and they side-step certain evil laden verses or cherry picked certain verses to suit their interests.
Note the often used verse "2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion' by the moderates to portray Islam is a religion of peace.
But note the counter to the above;
https://eu0.proxysite.com/process.php?d ... &f=norefer
Verse 2:256 from the Quran is often quoted to prove what a tolerant religion Islam is. The verse (supposedly) reads in part, "Let there be no compulsion in religion; truth stands out clearly from error..."
The word "let" is not in the Arabic, so the verse is not an imperative. What it actually says is "there is no compulsion in religion..." It is a statement that true belief can't be forced. However, this is not to say that others can't be forced into an outward manifestation of faith, such as the pillars of Islam:
- Allah's Apostle (Muhammad) said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally." Bukhari 8:387
Even within the same sura (chapter) of the Quran that verse 256 appears, Muslims are instructed to "fight with them (non-Muslims) until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah. (v. 2:193)" Apologists claim that this applied to the people of Mecca. They should also note that the Meccans were later forcibly converted.
Note the very next verse 2:257
- 2:257 [Ali] Allah is the Protector of those who have faith: from the depths of darkness He will lead them forth into light. Of those who reject faith the patrons are the evil ones: from light they will lead them forth into the depths of darkness. They [non-believers] will be companions of the fire, to dwell therein (For ever).
While 2:256 state 'no compulsion', the very next verse 2:257 is a condemnation of non-believers which send a subliminal message of compulsion, otherwise they will burn in Hell.
Thus the moderates who claimed to be 'reformers' [not real reformers] usually cherry-picked verses and do not take the whole context of the Quran into account.
Truer Muslim versus lesser Muslim:
For any one who claim to be a true Muslim, s/he has to comply with the words and intentions of Allah up to 100% or the best s/he can depending on their best ability.
What is wrong with this statement?
There are 6,236 verses in the Quran.
From my research it is noted the extremists on average comply with more of expectations within the 6,236 verses than the so-called moderates who cherry pick certain verses from the Quran.
For example, if a Muslim comply with 9:29 and fight/kill non-believers they are in fact following one more of the 6,236 verses in the Quran. This is one example of verses that are anti-non-Believers.
There are thousands of anti-non-Believers which are followed by certain groups of Muslims while the so-called moderates will avoid these verses.
Therefore a Muslim who adopt 1000 less verses of Allah would objectively be a lesser Muslim than a Muslim [a truer] who adopt those 1000 anti-non-Believers verses.
Note I have not stated the lesser Muslim are false Muslims.
It is very objectively clear, those who comply with more verses in the Quran [say 1000+] are definitely truer Muslims than those who comply less of the verses.
Not-a-theist. Religion is a critical necessity for humanity now, but not the FUTURE.