Occams razor=Athiesm is the most logical view of the world?

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Eduk
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Re: Occams razor=Athiesm is the most logical view of the wor

Post by Eduk » August 3rd, 2017, 9:44 am

It is a pretty good point actually. Supernatural means false. It means magic. It means something which is not true. If you say a claim is supernatural you are immediately saying the claim is not true. Naturally this would lead to some bias. Equally naturally is something which was claimed to be supernatural that was proven would immediately not be supernatural.
I can't think of anything which has been claimed to be supernatural which later turned out not to be though?
But yes if you say a. is true because magic then there is no reasonable reason to take a. seriously on those grounds alone.

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Re: Occams razor=Athiesm is the most logical view of the wor

Post by Ranvier » August 3rd, 2017, 3:47 pm

If we go with the definition of "supernatural" as something that doesn't obey natural laws, then we have to explain "tunneling", the results of "double slit experiment", or "quantum entanglement". There is or will be a scientific explanation for all such phenomena sooner or later, hence the word "supernatural" becomes meaningless in such definition.

-- Updated August 3rd, 2017, 4:04 pm to add the following --

In other words, we assume that anything we observe is "natural"

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Except perhaps human behavior... :)

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