Greta wrote:Spectrum, old pal, I have neither sufficient data, instrumentation nor resources to answer that question with anything better than a wild guess.
Given the real current threats arising from SOME* evil prone theists inspired by their evil laden holy texts, I believe humanity must take on the task to do its best to gather and compile relevant data to assess the situation for the present and the future.
* yes, like only 'SOME' Nazi members strongly inspired by Hitler's ideology.
Personally, I have been very mindful of such a question (OP) for a long time and have been gathering information on a mental basis [i.e. not thesis basis].
I believe I have reasonable data in mind to abduce a credible hypothesis; i.e.
The cons of theism are compounding toward outweighing its pros.
I am hoping for ideas [for or against] from others.
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Burning ghost wrote:
At present, yes. The evidence is we're not all dead yet (although maybe some religious folk would call that a 'failure'? haha!)
Future? God knows?
I don't have the specific data and details but my hunch is at present the state is;
cons @ 51.1% is outweighing pros @ 49.9% with increasing trend towards the future.
Note the trend from the past where theism and theology, e.g. Christianity dominated all aspects of Christians' life and infringing into those of the non-Christians as well. But since the 'Age of Enlightenment' Christianity's power and influence has been waning to its present state where it has been defanged of political and other power.
The current state is we have power crazy Muslims [SOME] and very stupid people proving moral support to Muslims who [when have gained power] are likely to kick them in the teeth.
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Atreyu wrote:I think you're making the issue unnecessarily complicated, and your post is nothing more than a duplicate of many posts here surrounding the issue of whether or not a God exists. You might as well have just asked "Is there a God or not?", which you've basically already asked in other posts.
It is so obvious this OP is a very topic within the main subject of 'theism.'
Even when I have proven "God is an Impossibility" I believe theism will still persist for those who need it for psychological reason.
The answers to the above question could determine how entrenched is the belief in God in the psyche of theists and whether we need to bear with the negatives of theism, should the pros heavily outweigh the cons.
If the cons is outweighing the pros then it will be more convincing to "defang" any power of influence of theism arising from whichever religion, especially Islam.
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Count Lucanor wrote:Pros? Which Pros and for whom?
For anyone who can convince themselves and others of any pros [positive] associated with theism.
Note there are many politicians who exploit the pros of religion for their selfish political interests. Note the listing I have provided above.
Not-a-theist. Religion is a critical necessity for humanity now, but not the FUTURE.