The Physical Presence of the God is the Earth

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The Physical Presence of the God is the Earth

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Is it possible that the physical presence of the God is the Earth?

By applying microbiology onto the structure of the Earth, similarities of the lives can be spotted easily. Lives are lives in different levels. The hierarchies of lives decided our presence. Everyone was born to be. Biosphere is the life cycles of the Earth. We are only living organism of higher intelligence only. The actual presence of the God is the physical Earth. "You are in me. I am you and you are me." Buddhism is a mental statue created by the physical differences.

Do you believe it? I am humble and invite all of you to join the debates on that. I have been appeared in this forum several years ago and I returned for a better world. Please feel free to comment. Our world is too small for divide and rule.

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kk23wong wrote: January 22nd, 2018, 6:55 am
By applying microbiology onto the structure of the Earth, similarities of the lives can be spotted easily. Lives are lives in different levels. The hierarchies of lives decided our presence. Everyone was born to be. Biosphere is the life cycles of the Earth. We are only living organism of higher intelligence only. The actual presence of the God is the physical Earth. "You are in me. I am you and you are me." Buddhism is a mental statue created by the physical differences.

Do you believe it? I am humble and invite all of you to join the debates on that. I have been appeared in this forum several years ago and I returned for a better world. Please feel free to comment. Our world is too small for divide and rule.
I'm guessing English isn't your first language, but, if it is, I certainly wouldn't admit it to anyone if I were you.
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I agree that worlds are like gods, with the Earth as an extraordinary entity amongst these extraordinary entities.

It's easy to take for granted this unimaginably massive world on whose surface we live unknowingly like captive Flatlanders. All of human doings (aside from the space program) occur on a planetary surface that is relatively smoother than a billiard ball.
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kk23wong wrote: January 22nd, 2018, 6:55 am Is it possible that the physical presence of the God is the Earth?
No, it's not possible. As I understand, gods are thought to be conscious agents. And there's no evidence that biological processes are directed from above with will and purpose.
kk23wong wrote: January 22nd, 2018, 6:55 am By applying microbiology onto the structure of the Earth, similarities of the lives can be spotted easily. Lives are lives in different levels. The hierarchies of lives decided our presence. Everyone was born to be. Biosphere is the life cycles of the Earth. We are only living organism of higher intelligence only. The actual presence of the God is the physical Earth. "You are in me. I am you and you are me." Buddhism is a mental statue created by the physical differences.
But that's just nature being nature. What exactly is being added when you say "the presence of god"?
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I don't really get the analogy. Are all planets Gods? Do suns count too? Is the moon a God? Where do we draw the line between Gods and big rocks? What would the universe as a whole be?
To me the claim that the universe is God makes a little more sense. But as Count Lucanor says what does God actually add to the equation?

I've asked lots of people this same question and thus far it's never been answered but I'll try. Let us say that the Earth was indeed God. Now what? What should I (or anyone else) do based on this knowledge?
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This is a sticky mess of convoluted ideas... I see the Earth as a single living organism that is comprised of many smaller beings. This works in the same way that we are comprised of countless tiny cells. Now, on that note, the Earth is a living being that will exist in this reletive state for billions of years before it dies and becomes something else. To us, a lifespan of billions of years can be considered "immortality". This leaves us with the Earth as an immortal celestial being, making it A GOD, but not THE GOD.

Along these lines, the Universe would just be another name for THE GOD, as all things were created by it and subsequently reside within it. The Univerese itself is the only thing that we can truly consider "eternal" as nothing residing within the Universe can outlast it.

If this could be considered knowledge, and thus true, then the only practical application would be the halting of religious discrimination and bigotry. The seemingly endless debate on the nature of God could finally be closed, and we could finally use that to begin answering other questions worth asking.
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then the only practical application would be the halting of religious discrimination and bigotry.
I already believe that. So the Earth is God adds nothing (at least to me).

Also you have a strange interpretation of immortality and eternal. I would not regard a living organism with a lifespan of a googleplex years as being even somewhat close to immortal. Relative to immortality my lifespan or a googleplex years lifespan are identical.
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Eduk wrote: January 24th, 2018, 7:48 am
then the only practical application would be the halting of religious discrimination and bigotry.
I already believe that. So the Earth is God adds nothing (at least to me).

Also you have a strange interpretation of immortality and eternal. I would not regard a living organism with a lifespan of a googleplex years as being even somewhat close to immortal. Relative to immortality my lifespan or a googleplex years lifespan are identical.
I have strange interpratations on many things. :wink: The reason that I chose to frame it that way is because we, as human beings, have never encountered something that could truly be considered eternal (no beginning or end). The closest thing that we have to this would be the Earth itself, as it has existed through out all of recorded human history.

The thing that "Earth is God" brings to the equation would be that we no longer debate topics like this, as "god's" true identity would no longer be a question.
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we, as human beings, have never encountered something that could truly be considered eternal
I'm just being a little bit picky, I apologise. For me there are two common definitions of immortal/eternal. I just don't like the 'very long' time definition, though that is common usage so I guess I need to live with that :)
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Sorry, my English is poor. I come up with the idea I truly believed in. I apologize if I have offended anyone.

The below diagram reveals where the general ideas come from.

Structural Comparisons in-between the Earth and a Cell: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EzfS_5q68i8/T ... risons.jpg

This is simple, please take a look!

I think it is the truth that has been forbidden by the God. There must be someone put it forward before me.
And this is totally different from Gaia hypothesis for which it has explained the physical presence of a "supreme being without violating any natural rules". And she is the manipulator in our world. She has created legends and other myths by abusing her given natural power. She transformed this planet to the way she like. Everyone was born-to-be, even as this "God"

I really think that I am very close to the ultimate truth behind religion and psychology.

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I really think that I am very close to the ultimate truth behind religion and psychology.
What happened to you to stunt yourself so?
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That's not a stunt. I think it is very close to the truth: a supreme being without violating any natural rules and a universe consists of lives in different levels. Everyone was born to be.

I put my name in each post so when people google my name, they will find the doorway to the ultimate truth. That is the purpose. I want to link myself with this ultimate truth. It is my discovery! "All truth are easy to understand once discovered, the point is to discover them." -- Thomas Edison


I am sorry if I have offened you. Sorry!

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Let me try to talk plainly and give you some genuine feedback.
Your idea is stupid and your conclusions are insane. Now you could take that as highly offensive (perhaps reasonably so) and ignore the implications of why I would say that. Or you could wonder if I had a point. Now my advice would be to step back. Maybe go for a walk. Perhaps read some physics papers which explain that the text book picture of an atom you get shown in school is in no way what an atom 'looks' like. Perhaps there will be some food for thought. Now I don't expect you to do that at all. I expect you to simply repeat yourself to me, and others, until everyone gets bored. But I can always hope.
Of course you could be a troll, but my advice would be the same. Step back. Think about what you are doing. Have a nice walk. Think about the actual issues you have in your life and try to deal with them in a productive manner (difficult to do I know).
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Eduk wrote: January 24th, 2018, 1:40 pm Let me try to talk plainly and give you some genuine feedback.
Your idea is stupid and your conclusions are insane. Now you could take that as highly offensive (perhaps reasonably so) and ignore the implications of why I would say that. Or you could wonder if I had a point. Now my advice would be to step back. Maybe go for a walk. Perhaps read some physics papers which explain that the text book picture of an atom you get shown in school is in no way what an atom 'looks' like. Perhaps there will be some food for thought. Now I don't expect you to do that at all. I expect you to simply repeat yourself to me, and others, until everyone gets bored. But I can always hope.
Of course you could be a troll, but my advice would be the same. Step back. Think about what you are doing. Have a nice walk. Think about the actual issues you have in your life and try to deal with them in a productive manner (difficult to do I know).
Thank you for your swift reply.

But I would prefer to say this topic is still open for discussions.

Thank you very much!

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kk23wong wrote: January 24th, 2018, 1:30 pm
I put my name in each post so when people google my name, they will find the doorway to the ultimate truth.
I googled your name, and, just as you predicted, I believe I have discovered the ultimate truth.
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