jerlands wrote: ↑March 14th, 2018, 4:02 am
Namelesss wrote: ↑March 13th, 2018, 9:22 pm
Yes, ASSUMING that "we bring it to fruition", in the first place.
What is 'imagining'?
Everything that you experience, including yourself, is 'thought/ego'... 'imag-ination'.
That is why 'belief' = insanity, because
Reality is "make-believe", no more than a 'Thought'!
How is gravity make believe?
Okay, fair enough;
Lets begin with our premise, 'motion' is a matter of 'appearances'.
Gravity is a theory meant to explain the appearance of 'motion'. The 'motion' of an 'object' moving from your hand to the ground. The theory of 'gravity' helps to understand, make sense, of that perceived 'motion'. To explain that mirage.
Notice the hell our scientists are experiencing in their attempt to 'real-ify' gravity?
Simplistic illustration;
All moments arise synchronously, all together.
We've all seen, or made, the little paper flip book, perhaps of the man bouncing the ball.
Every page is a unique Perspective, and when viewed in a particular order, it appears that the ball is falling and bouncing back up.
In Reality, all of these positions arise simultaneously, but there is no 'sense' to be made from the 'cloud', so we view, uniquely, each 'still frame', and... 'imagine' 'motion'.
Our quantum tells us what the mystics have been saying for millennia, that all is 'connected', One!
If that is the case, then the slightest movement, anywhere in the Universemust affect/change the entirety of Reality, change the entire Universe!
If you really could make a choice and make it so, then you have recreated the entire Universe, for (what usually amounts to) your personal comfort.
Now, if everyone were such Godlings, altering the Universe for every desire, we would have crashed and burned the first moment out!
Namelesss wrote: ↑March 13th, 2018, 9:22 pm
We don't perceive a rock, or a lettuce, we perceive 'code' and we believe the display on our monitor as Reality, when it is the code, Mind/Thought/"make-believe" that is the Reality.
"Imagine" your 'garden', thus it is real to you. So are the seeds that you imagine, and the soil...
If what you claim as code is the synthesis of elements that compose anything I'll accept.
The 'code' (quantum probability wave field, undifferentiated potential) (not "my claim" but cutting edge science) is what you imagine to be "anything" and "elements"... and anything else that is ever perceived by (Consciousness) Perspective!
And, if what you perceive as make-believe as not seeing the fact matter is largely void space I can accept that
There is no 'void space' that has ever been witnessed/Known.
There is always 'something' there,
every-thing exists, no-thing cannot exist (other than as a meaningless word).
Is this lettering that you are reading composed of ink? Partly? It certainly appears to be...
'Make-believe' is looking at these symbols and finding meaning, seeing a metaphor and dressing yourself in them to go out.
We make believe that there is an us that can own things...
To really 'believe' this, that there Really is all this, autonomously existing, juxtaposed to each other in 'space'... is insanity. Symptomatic. Ignorant, at best. (But that is Bliss, no? A desirable state, ignorance! *__- )
but, what we see is not the thing itself but the interaction of that thing within its environment.
Not 'inter-action', necessarily, but what we can perceive is due to the duality, the conditionality of Thought!
Thought/Ego/Duality provides "contrast", without which, there is not anything to be Known.
That is what I see that I believe you are missing. The seed is the potential, the lettuce is the result of the interaction of that potential through time.
Were the 'appearance' of motion Universally Reality, you would be accurately describing the obvious.
That is like coming up with all sorts of theories to explain the 'motion' of the ball in our flip-book.
We are seriously studying mirages
as if Universal Reality.
Thus are scientists flummoxed! *__-