Who Is God?

Discuss philosophical questions regarding theism (and atheism), and discuss religion as it relates to philosophy. This includes any philosophical discussions that happen to be about god, gods, or a 'higher power' or the belief of them. This also generally includes philosophical topics about organized or ritualistic mysticism or about organized, common or ritualistic beliefs in the existence of supernatural phenomenon.
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SimpleGuy
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Re: Who Is God?

Post by SimpleGuy » April 8th, 2018, 1:45 pm

I think we should identify god in a more sexual way than already mentioned, perhaps this is just the feeling having successfully aquired to manage to get a partner for your lifetime and not more or less.

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Re: Who Is God?

Post by Belindi » April 9th, 2018, 4:56 am

SimpleGuy, if that is the consolatory narrative that makes sense to you that's okay for you.

It is a problem that many religious explanatory stories don't make sense to a lot of people who now lack any explanation of suffering and how to avoid it. The official stories that explain life , death, loss, natural disasters, and how to avert or tolerate those are ' myths' . Those now need updating or replacement. Some people do indeed call their sexual or life partner God. Others call nature God. Some people call parenthood God and look no further than their grandchildren. Some people call money, or power, God. Others are driven by loss and helplessness to feel that crack cocaine is God.

So that people in a society can live and work together we need to call something God which is valued by all. In past times God has been explained by means of a mythical story which is told as real history. Is it impossible for people to live in a society unless all of them believe the same story that defines God? Does there have to be a leading explanatory myth?

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Re: Who Is God?

Post by jerlands » April 9th, 2018, 9:22 am

Belindi wrote:
April 9th, 2018, 4:56 am
Does there have to be a leading explanatory myth?
I think the name of the game for some is to understand while others are happy finding security in the herd. The fact is not all men seek truth but many, like Stalin, seek power and dominance.
"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." - Mark Twain

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Re: Who Is God?

Post by SBE » June 1st, 2018, 4:44 am

There are many beliefs that claim to be the only way to salvation and their God is the only true God. There is so much confusion and righteous banging on the desk that makes me walk away from all mainstream explanations of the Divine. So, what I use as a test in discerning what could be true, is the belief must promote the betterment of all, while encouraging growth through freedom to make your own choices and learn by your mistakes.

Low and behold there is a philosophy of creation that does all of this and more. This philosophy has a major difference though, and can feel strange at first but after some contemplation makes a whole lot of sense. And that is the creator is not a masculine God our father but instead the Mother Goddess the Creatrix of the universe. The universe could be logically considered feminine in nature as we see the feminine creating life here in our lives. One might say life needs to be seeded by a male to complete the task but that is not the case in the beginning of most species. Androgyny is said to exist before the separation of sexes and all androgynous beings, even though possessing both female and male traits are considered female because they can create life on their own. There are many more reasons why this philosophy rings true to me, as it promotes our individual Sovereignty thus reminding us of our infinite worth.

While the patriarchal God system we see today promotes, through religion, royalty, the elite and government, the notion that authority is superior and we are inferior and must obey their dictates even if we think it’s immoral to do so. They teach that morality can only come from the obedience to authority. Hmm

http://wespenre.com/2/creation-of-universes.htm

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Re: Who Is God?

Post by ThomasHobbes » June 1st, 2018, 12:47 pm

When you know, you know..
God is spelled backwards.
It's obvious.

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Re: Who Is God?

Post by SimpleGuy » June 2nd, 2018, 1:50 pm

Belindi wrote:
April 9th, 2018, 4:56 am
SimpleGuy, if that is the consolatory narrative that makes sense to you that's okay for you.

It is a problem that many religious explanatory stories don't make sense to a lot of people who now lack any explanation of suffering and how to avoid it. The official stories that explain life , death, loss, natural disasters, and how to avert or tolerate those are ' myths' . Those now need updating or replacement. Some people do indeed call their sexual or life partner God. Others call nature God. Some people call parenthood God and look no further than their grandchildren. Some people call money, or power, God. Others are driven by loss and helplessness to feel that crack cocaine is God.

So that people in a society can live and work together we need to call something God which is valued by all. In past times God has been explained by means of a mythical story which is told as real history. Is it impossible for people to live in a society unless all of them believe the same story that defines God? Does there have to be a leading explanatory myth?
The problem is, even if an explanation does exist, it doesn't change the status quo at least from the point of explanation. But the experience of belonging together for two individuals is more. An explanation doesn't abolish your problems, it changes the viewpoint perhaps the ansatz to solve problems, but this is not always helpful. What is helpful is true experience of community.

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Re: Who Is God?

Post by Belindi » June 2nd, 2018, 2:39 pm

SimpleGuy wrote:
What is helpful is true experience of community.
Yes, and the true experience of community involves both world view and moral consensus. World view and moral consensus are personified as gods and God.

The traditional God matched an outdated world view which few people now credit. It's necessary to update the God story to match the predominating world view so that moral consensus won't be lost.

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Re: Who Is God?

Post by Darshan » June 13th, 2018, 10:17 pm

Earthellism defines God and now understands his location. By defining hell as the surface of earth (earthell) and solving the problem of evil by clarifying that God is not here and that human devils among us steal our free will and rape, torture and murder us every second, earthellism locates God to heaven. God is not here on earthell but God lives and resides in heaven where he is omnipotent and omnibenevolent only there and not here. Heaven is above us located around earth and not near any other planet. The image of the pale blue dot by Voyager from 4 billion miles away clearly shows earth with a direct beam of sunlight engulfing this planet. God in heaven protects our planet from asteroids and redirects all astronauts back to earth and has not let one float off into space to die. 65 million years a 10 mile asteroid hit the earth and killed off the dinosaurs and brought the evolution of mammals and human beings. Clearly another asteroid that size should have hit us over the last 50 million years and stopped or massively delayed the arrival of human beings here but none did. Our God has protected us from such asteroids and provides us with heaven and earthell for our souls to exist in heaven and us as human beings and human devils here on earthell. Our God exists in our solar system and brought us here from another solar system that died when its star cremated its inhabitable planets. When our sun becomes a red giant and cremates Mars, Venus and Earth, our God will direct our souls to another solar system just like he did before. All this is derived from the book "The Life and Death of Planet Earth' which is the foundation of earthellism.

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