DMT: The Spirit Molecule
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DMT: The Spirit Molecule
Here is an extract from a participant in the above experiment with his experiences of DMT:
There are many who take DMT [as with other substances] and reports they have experiences of God is various forms.
Thus it is likely the founders of theistic religions could have experiences of God via DMT or other chemicals that triggered them to have to experiences of a God.
The above support my thesis, the idea of God is most likely to have a psychological basis than being real within an empirical rational reality as claimed by theists.
Views?
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DMT: Myths and Facts Patricio Dominguez: A warning about DMT DMT is a very interesting element and I suggest one to do extensive readings on this subject.
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Did you read this in the OP?
"Here are evidence of clues to how the idea of God arose in the mind, not that God is a pre-existing thing waiting out there to be believed."
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I have watched the full video.Dark Matter wrote: ↑March 12th, 2018, 3:11 amDid you watch the video? Do you pay any attention at all to what to others say?
I am aware some are linking it to God, e.g. the Rabbi. Obviously I do not agree with that kind of view because I am confident God is illusory and an impossibility.
The critical point is we can trigger spiritual experiences and experiences of God chemically.
Since God is an illusion and an impossibility, thus what is claimed to be God can be reduced to physiology and elsewhere I have linked the idea of God to the existential crisis and psychology.
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There is no need for me to try hard at present.Dark Matter wrote: ↑March 12th, 2018, 3:28 am Seems to me you are trying awfully hard to convince yourself that “God is an illusion.” The only evidence you proffer is from between your ears.
I have already proven by reason 'God is an Impossibility'.
In this case, the question of God is a moot and a non-starter.
The above is merely one supporting evidence, I have loads of other evidences on why the idea of God is due to psychology than God as a prexisting being waiting for believers to believer in it.
Note my point in the OP,
- and therefrom claim themselves to be an agent of God.There are many who take DMT [as with other substances] and reports they have experiences of God is various forms.
Thus it is likely the founders of theistic religions could have experiences of God via DMT or other chemicals that triggered them to have to experiences of a God
Those theists who believe in the founder of any theistic religion should consider this point.
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Uh, yeah. Okay.Spectrum wrote: ↑March 12th, 2018, 11:49 pmThere is no need for me to try hard at present.Dark Matter wrote: ↑March 12th, 2018, 3:28 am Seems to me you are trying awfully hard to convince yourself that “God is an illusion.” The only evidence you proffer is from between your ears.
I have already proven by reason 'God is an Impossibility'.
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It reminds me of a Dawkins YouTube video I was watching where he said that we don't get our morals from religion and that all harm done in the name of religion is due to religion but all good done in the name of religion is just misapplied to religion.
Feels to me like you can't have it both ways. If people don't get morality from religion then they don't get morality from religion in my opinion.
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Note I made the following points in the OP.Eduk wrote: ↑March 15th, 2018, 2:58 pm It does all seem a bit pointless Spectrum? I mean you aren't asking a question you are just making a statement. Are you expecting to engage anyone?
It reminds me of a Dawkins YouTube video I was watching where he said that we don't get our morals from religion and that all harm done in the name of religion is due to religion but all good done in the name of religion is just misapplied to religion.
Feels to me like you can't have it both ways. If people don't get morality from religion then they don't get morality from religion in my opinion.
The above are serious claims, i.e. people like Jesus, Muhammad, and others who founded religions claimed to have contact with a real God who revealed to them divine messages, are most likely to be effected by chemicals or other mental issues.There are many who take DMT [as with other substances] and reports they have experiences of God is various forms.
Thus it is likely the founders of theistic religions could have experiences of God via DMT or other chemicals that triggered them to have to experiences of a God.
The above support my thesis, the idea of God is most likely to have a psychological basis than being real within an empirical rational reality as claimed by theists.
This is a counter argument to the theists' claim that God is real and spoke to various messengers.
Thus I am expecting theists or anyone to defend their God is real rather than it is the idealization and reification of some person who had experienced an altered state of consciousness.
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Some will get bored but not everyone because to many the term 'God' is very critical.Eduk wrote: ↑March 16th, 2018, 4:38 am You would expect that? If I wrote God is man made once then it's possible someone might reply to me. Unlikely to be usefully though but then I wouldn't have said anything useful either. If I wrote God is man made many many times then I would expect everyone to get bored.
To many theists it is a matter of eternal life or eternal hell.
To others [non-Muslims] it is this;
God is man-made can be discussed from many perspectives.
This thread is a different perspective from the norm.
At present the evil prone Muslims as supported indirectly by the moderates are banging on imposing Sharia Laws on everyone everywhere and committing terrible evils and violence everywhere because to them God is real and commanding them to do so.
The purpose of such a thread is to drive into them the reality that their God is grounded on chemicals [like DMT, etc.] between their ears and not that God is a real thing.
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