Alias wrote: ↑June 2nd, 2018, 10:53 am
Spectrum wrote: ↑June 2nd, 2018, 12:01 am
I have never linked religion-in-general to violence and other evils. I have always claimed religions like Buddhism, Jainism. Taoism are not evil at all.
So --- the billions of people who practice those religions have no "lust" and no link to the deepest DNA of reptilia?
And of course, the Japanese would never commit atrocities?
Note you have to separate the people [religionists] from the ideology and deal with them separately and in combination in context.
Religionists
DNA wise ALL humans has the potential for the religious 'lust' but that is potential is not activated in some.
Where the 'lust' for religion is activated in the majority, the driving force of that 'lust' comes in degrees, say 1/100 to 100/100.
Generally per 80/20 rule, 20% of the religious has >80% degrees of lust.
The Religion/Ideology
When I claimed religions like Buddhism, Jainism. Taoism are not evil at all, it meant these religions do have terrible evil elements in their religious texts that inspire the 20% of evil prone to commit evil.
Christianity and Hinduism has some elements of evil but not significant.
Crusades, African slavery and South American conquests are insignificant evils, as are the massacre of Tamils, Sikhs, Dalit and Muslims in India.
Here is where you conflate the believers as humans with the ideology.
Christianity and the major Hindu religions [Ahimsa, e.g. Ghandi] has an overriding pacifist maxim. Jesus command Christians to love their enemies. Did Jesus every command Christians to kill in his name or God's name? Note the OT is abrogated by the NT.
Have you heard or read of any Christian shouting something like Jesus-u-Akbar when they kill someone?
The crusades were carried out [due to desperation and defensive actions] by Christians who had strong lusts i.e. >80% on their own Will and not based on the commands of Jesus.
There are pedophiles, rapists and murderers within the Christian community, but their evil acts are not inspired by Jesus or the NT.
Whatever evils from Christianity are not that significant, in terms of hindering Science with their creationist views, abortion issues, and other minor evils.
In contrast, Islam (Quran) Allah and 'Muhammad' in a very major part explicitly command Muslims to commit evils
as a divine duty against non-believers culminating in terrible evils like the below;
Not-a-theist. Religion is a critical necessity for humanity now, but not the FUTURE.